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Dear Abdi fatah
1.I agree with you that Sh/Ibrahim Dheere and other UWSLF leaders have fallen prey to the tactics of The racist Tigray, Amhara ‘Ethiopianist’ state which under various forms, kingdom, third-world communism and pseudo-republic , perpetrated in fact 15 Genocides some of which have by now lasted for more than 140 years.
2.I agree with you that they are also in for a rude awakening if they genuinely believe that the Criminal, Inhuman ‘Ethiopia’ is ready to abandon her serial genocides perpetrated by the racist and criminal elites of the Amhara and Tigray Monophysitic (Tewahedo) Abyssinians.
3.Unfortunately I disagree with the use of the term terrorist for any ogaden national who fights and dies for the independence of the country because that will be speaking the language of the racist and criminal elites of the Amhara and Tigray Monophysitic (Tewahedo) Abyssinians.
4.I want to conclude my comments that I do not know you but I like your writings and I love you as a brother.

I agree with Kamaal Haji Hassan's view that the author should not have used the term terrorist when addressing the UWSLF. It is inappropriate, unwarranted and misguided in referring them as such. They simply are not terrorists. We should never ever allow ourselves to forget but remember all the time that we -Ogadenis- have been and continue to be victims of the current regime in Addis Ababa and its predecessors. UWSLF suffered as much as others in Ogaden. Policy differences aside, we are all -UWSLF, ONLF, and the populace - the same people and are victims of the successive Ethiopian regimes.

Therefore, Abdilfatah, please avoid in the future using that language against our own even if we differ in policies and views. Terrorism is the same language that Meles Zenawi, his TPLF and their predecessors have been using without exception against each and everyone of us.

What is undeniably true though is that from the very get go UWSLFpersued wrong policies and approach. Unlike ONLF, they never enjoyed popular support and as a result, not recently as some think, but they have always been inefficient and insignificant.

Now that they have changed their mind and decided to abandon the armed struggle as a means of achieving Ogadeni self-determination, it seems that they once again made a terrible dicision. Out of the few options they had, it looks that they have picked up the worst. In fact, making peace with Meles at this time shouldn't have even been an option.

There have been lately lively discussion among Ogadenis and others over the internet and elsrwhere as to whether or not UWSLF have in fact kneeled down and surrendered to Meles and co or have in fact got a decent deal from Addis Ababa. Semantics aside though, one would be hard pressed to understand what the leaders of UWSLF would bring to the table in order to effect any meaningful and fruitful negotiation or more impotantly to bring about change to the lives of their hapless people.

Of course, time will tell in due course. But signs are it will be very unlikely that they will achieve anything of significance. The reason is plain: they simply have no bargaining chip to effect decent negotiation with TPLF regime. Even assuming that Meles would stop his genocidal practice in the Ogaden if there was a peace, UWSLF is not in a position to bring peace in the Ogaden. And TPLF knows full well about that fact. So what is the point and value of the mentioned deal then.
Meles and co. know that as long as ONLF -the only fighting force in Ogaden-is not onboard there is no peace to be had. Lets all wait and see what happens in the not so distant future and hope for better.

You have come to realize the nature of the terrorist TPLF junta. They are the minority in Ethiopia. The only way the bandits of Mekele can survive in power is by dividing along and within ethnic lines. And here is a good example of the TPLF operates. Mind you, it is a regime that represents only 3 million out of the ~80. And the majic to staying in power has been and will always be its devilish devide and rule tactic.
I always pray to God, I wish there was one more ethnic group that is as brave and as cohesive as the Ogadenians.
May God be with you brothers and sisters. You will see a light of day, one day. You will be there!

Glory to the martyrs of the Horn of Africa that passed away for liberty and independence.

Yours, Eritrean

I think what abdifatah means by UWSLF being a terrorist organizations is that the Ethiopian government use to openly call UWSLF terrorist but all the sudden they have abondned such language and are acting as if UWSLF is a totaly new organization....

I'm Responding the brother danwaa who negated the article of brother karrie it is ok to have an opposite ideas but respect other view ,one should have to remember that we all suffer the subjugation and aggression
century old colonialism Ethiopian, the ponit is Uwslf has no power any fruit totheir struggle at this moment
so all they can do at this moment to Join so called the new police of degaanka (hawahirin) and die in the hand of ONLF Commandos. brother sh ibrahim dhere is from dhanaan the freedom lovers of that historic
Town are 100% behind the cause ogadenia led by ONLF my cousin Danwaa forget the short sight of so an so are from here or there we the ogaden Somali on the same boat Ethiopian doesn't care what ever you call your self all they want is how to continue the misery and aggression to ward our herofic ogaden Somali people .

thanks
Ogaden shall Be free insha;Allah
Dibitaati

UWSLF is part of our society and nobody can deny it. Sh. Ibrahim and other figures were fighting for the sake of the country, people and religion. You (ONLF) sidelined them instead of making unity and trust between you and them and now you look jealous of what they are doing for their country.

Blame your self why they choose this because of your dictatorship.

Abdifatah Karrie has once again presented a brilliant article except the use of some unnecessary terms. All in all, he should be commended.

The latest decision by UWSLF is nothing but committing the gravest political crime against our people. We should not loose sight of the gravity of their crime. Unlike common criminals who commit petty crimes such as robbery, pick-pocketting and the likes that affect only few individuals, UWSLF committed a far reaching political crime that have the potential of impacting the overall struggle and the lives of millions in Ogaden.
Simply put, they are traitors who betrayed our long struggle for self determination and rendered the decades long sacrifices made by thousands of our selfless people meaningless. The UWSLF leadership and their prominent supports should be dealt with the same way other nations and organizations deal with their traitors. In today's world, I know the guillotine method is not fashionable but the result is the same.

As we are discussing here, TPLF immoral and racist terrorists are killing, filling the jails with hundreds of innocents, exappropriating or torching Ogadenis properties, practising collective economic punishment or planned mass starvation and most importantly waging psychological war against our people by indiscriminately raping our lovely and beautiful girls and women to humilate them and break their will. It is against this backdrop, that UWSLF and their so called supporters are hurriedly heading to Addis Ababa, posing for the cameras and congratulating one another for the job well done i.e capitulating to Meles for their despicable self interest and in the process forgetting the pain and hardship that millions face every single moment, not day!.

Hassan & Danwaa

Since when committing political crime against ourselves has become something to be proud of and since when betraying our struggle by quoting and reciting few incoherent verses (irrelevant to the current time and situation) here and there from our beloved book (Qu'an) in order to deceive the unsuspecting populace has become something to be cherished. Jelousy! Are you out of your mind and trying to encourage us and others to compete with you and out-bid you in selling ourselves and our pride. Times must have changed!.
You and your likes should know well that by rejoicing UWSLF's move is sharing the crime with the perpetrators and I hope you stay true to your position. No matter how long it takes, the day of judgement will come and the peretrators of this horrible crime and their collaborators will be punished accordingly.

Behind Mr. Karie's bravado lies a real fear that the might of the Ethiopian army shall now descend on the ONLF. The truth of the matter is, things can only get worse for the ONLF.
I wish Sh. Ibrahim and his folks the best and hope they can extract reasonable and meaningful concessions from the Ethiopian government.

as we aware uwslf sarunder to ethiopia as we getting inside information onlf mohamed omar wing are also on their way to sarunder to ethiopia and their is negociation going on betwenn ethiopia and onlf mohamed omar wing so next view months same people will get suprised to see mohamed omar and his group arriving addisababa airport claiming we accept peace deal with ethiopia.

who knows what comes next this uncertain political situation in ogaden region. the situation our people is in other moment it is good idea to safe our people from mass killing and accept any peace deal and stand up against ethiopia when the time is right.

ahmed faaf(maraacaate)

Yusr....You must be jokeing if you really think that just because the uswlf joined ethiopia that some how this will eliminate the ONLF...Like mr Karie said UWSLF IS NOTHING and changes nothing in the region ONLF is still and will countiue to be the Number 1 force in the Ogaden.....

Mr. karie countiue writing your articles I very much enjoy reading I wish I could see the faces of UWSLF while reading this....

Yusr,
Where did get from this bizarre and outragious idea of ONLF's "a real fear that the might of the Ethiopian army"?. And what is new here? Do you think UWSLF's capitulating is a game changer?. It will not change an iota in the Ogaden theater. If anything UWSLF's nuisance gave away to clear players in the Ogaden arena. UWSLF's has always been irrelevant and their departure will not add or reduce anything in the equation. Things will remain the same.

ONLF has been fighting against Ethiopian army for the last 16+ years and the supposed might (!) of the Ethiopian army failed miserably time and again to even dent the gallant ONLF fighters.

Furthermore, as common sense tells you and everybody knows well the fighting moral and ability of Ethiopian army has been heading downwards and will certainly continue in that direction. On the other hand, ONLF's moral and the battlefield tested hardened skills has been growing every year. In other words, ONLF's curve will continue heading northward while that of Ethiopia will is doomed to point southwards.
Meanwhile, sit back, stay tuned and enjoy the show though you will certainly be disappointed.

1.YUSR

What do you men might of the Ethiopian army?
Where do you live? Do you even know what Ethiopia is? What you call Ethiopian army: is it not in reality a dozens of thousands of hungry ignorant beggars who are out to loot, rape and commit constant civilian massacre and other inhuman atrocities against the helpless Ogaden nomads in the rural areas.

2.ALI

What do you mean sit back, stay tuned and enjoy the show though you will certainly be disappointed? Is a massacre a show to be enjoyed? Is genocide entertaining? What do you think of ONLF? Is it not just a few out of touch in Diaspora and a bunch of underfunded, fearless brave men in rags?
The reality is that: It is the first time in the history of Ogaden that our people have no place to escape the massacre. Even their own brothers trade them as slaves. And the inhuman woyane exterminates them.

I agree the fact that you cannot surrender to someone who seeks your death for it will only end up in your demise. But I also want you to get real; Ogaden nation faces nothing less than extinction, while Ethiopia faces nothing less than disintegration. There will never be a winner in war, just losers!

I am shock and dismay to see this for couples reasons.
First of all I have been in Ogaden in all my life and I never ever hear anything Called UWSLF, and it only came to light when there was ICU in Somali and when Dr Mohamed doloal The guy use to address television pretentions in Moghauois.

Secondly what did they achieved for been UWSLF, what is changed so far, I don’t understand at all.
This only shown how divided Ogaden people are when it comes to librated Ogadenia.
We will see inshallah what they get as results of doing this. I hope they will not send him soon to get his brother head. Basically ask him to fight with ONLF soon.

I am a bit confused with the remarks of Faisa Abdirahman. She chanllenges both Ali and YUSR for their clear and opposing views but at the same time offered us no solution. To avoid the scenario of "there will never be winner in war !, just losers", can she provide us with a solution that makes Ethiopia and Ogaden both victors?

Fortunately both Ogaden and the extreme minority Amhara and Tigray regime of Abyssinia (fallaciously re-baptized ‘Ethiopia’) can be victors if they do the following.

1. Stop fighting and start negotiating

2. The Amhara and Tigray Monophysitic Abyssinians have colonised more than 10 different nations, whom they want to wipe out historically, culturally, religiously, spiritually, socio-behaviourally, economically, politically, and physically. More specifically, the Amhara and Tigray criminal ethno-religious groups of Abyssinia have targeted the Oromos, the Ogadenis, the Afars, the Sidamas, the Kaffas, the Shekachos, the Kambaatas, the Gedeos, the Hadiyas, the Anuak, the Nuer, the Berta, the Shinasha, the Gumuz and the Agaw

3. If they need everlasting peace they need to negotiate with all above given nations and grant them with either a full independence or autonomy as the people of the above given nations wish.

4. Or else as I have said there will be no winners just losers!.

Thanks for your prompt response. Yes, negotiation and talking peace rather than killing each other. But, Tango takes two to play. The Ogaden people, the oppressed of the two, is not fighting for the sake of fighting, and ONLF has been calling Ethiopia for a negotiation in a neutral country and under the auspices of a third party. Could you then, please, convince Ethiopia to respond positively to this call? If not, does not your suggestion sound like a sermon in church.?

To all realists;
The realities on the ground don't favor the stated political goals of the ONLF.
The prevailing geopolitical reality of the day has dictated Sh. Ibrahim and his elk to do what they've done.
It's about time the ONLF should do the same and end the misery of their people.

To all dreamers;
Keep on dreaming.

Faisa Abdirahmaan,

1. To my knowledge nations of the world achieved their independence through sacrifices and hardship and when waging a liberation war no one prerequisits their struggle by worrying where in the future its people would seek refuge when they suffer. That is not because the leaders of the struggle are indifferent of their pain but because they know that it is an avoidable if they were to achieve their goal. It is a known universal fact and not unique to us. Waging a struggle and saving your people from its consequent hardship by sheltering them in a safe country outside of your boders is not always possible, the two just can not go hand in hand. There are no many examples one can quote from the history books.
Moreover, there are those of us who believe that running to Somalia as refugees has in fact been the main reason of disabling our struggle or delaying the attainment of our aim i.e independence.

2. You said that "Even their own brothers trade them as slaves". Feel free to address them as brothers but I am just wondering why don't you point the finger of blame to where it rightly belongs to. It certainly is not ONLF's fault. Time and again ONLF pleaded with the "brothers" not to trade "their brothers" to no avail and under the circumstances ONLF did what it could. Try to be a bit fair.

3. You said "There will never be a winner in war, just losers!". Faisa , I respectfully disagree with you on this one too. Though unpleasant, it is believed that war is the best defense if nations to defend themselves from preditors or if already under occupation to free themselves and preserve their dignity. How else would one save themselves from annihilation or enslavement while wanting to win their independence. As the saying goes: you simply can not eat your cake and have it too. The choice is yours: either occupation and enslavement or sacrifice and freedom. For an example and closer to home don't look too far but Eritrea or even how Meles Zenawi himself has come to power and remained in there. If you wish try counting how many countries won their independence or even defended it after independence without bloodshed. Blame the greedy and injustice of others in the world we live in.

What I would agree with you and everybody else though is that war is an ugly evil, painful and costly but I also believe it is necessary if one was to fend off others and safeguard their right. I wish there was one, but as the great Nelson Mandela titled his book "no easy walk to freedom", I know no other way out short of kneeling down and accepting enslavement.

UWSLF reaching a peace with their bitter enemy isn't surprising me at all.But what ridicules is that how disorganize they are.I knew this group formerly known Al-Itihad was badly defeated and wiped out from the region of Ogaden by EPRDF regime foot troops and latter on even were hunted down by Ethiopian military units which had been killed or captured wherever they found in the horn those members of UWSLF to root out them from the entire horn region.We,knew many of them killed and captured from Mogadishu and thousands of them were jailed without bringing any courts and rotted there.Many suspected Al-ithaid members but innocents Ogadenis were among of those shooted on streets or jailed by Melse regime.We all aware of that ,these group were badly defeated and that almost eliminated from the entire region of Somali Ogaden.

Well,many people thought UWSLF would (Al-Itihad) never recovering from those lost and dismembered embattled wars against Ethiopian troops.
However,their revives again and that hearing them on the media with new name(uwslf) and wither new leader Sheikh Ibrahim-Dheere,in fact their emerging alive one again it became a surprising one to both Ethiopia and the ONLF groups who thought the AL-itihad disappeared for good..ONLF,the only group which strongly continues fights in the region against Melese regime and of course,that dominated the politico of the region since the Al-itihad's defeated and wiped out by Ethiopia troops.
Well,whatever was reason ONLF rejected the first plead of the Shiekh Ibrahim 's corporations to fight side by side against enemy.Onlf waged a propaganda war against the reviving young USWLF and where also some believed that the hero of Ogaden, Dr Dolal was disappeared in their field conflicts of the two groups while Dr dolal easily lost in between them and had been targeted easily their enemy of the Liyupolice led by Ato Abdi Omar-Iley.

Amazingly,once again when ONLF kicked out the new and reborn young Alithihad (USWLF) org from the region,the only left option this time for the organazition became to take it the peaceful solutions and MOST likely a peace without any conditions,which overwhledly the people of Ogaden both in diaspora and back at home welcomed the peace agreement reached with government.

Now,my dear onlf members and supporters,would you tell us of what to be blamed of these defeated,suffered and desprate of Ogaden mullahs,who preferred to come back their homes in peaceful and whatever deal that given them by the Government it would be a plus for them.
We know for how long these people suffered and. nobody was cared them their suffer and pains so I woundering now why ONLF cares them there peace agreements.

Don't forget,they're our Ogaden citizens too and have the same rights onlf has among the public.

The best policy stand that should say by onlf when Al jazera about peace deal btwn UWSLF and EPRDF was this:These will be a test for Ethiopian government since always it says that onlf doesn't like any peaceful solutions and if some touchable peaceful implemention come up with these agreements,then ONLF would rethink the truthful of woyane.Instead of of waging onlf a propaganda wars against these unorganized and hapless suffered Ogaden Oluma.

Look,some of them how older they are and suffered inthere rest of lives abroad or refugee comaps! Don't they ahve their own rights to live in peace in there homelands.
Home is sweet always!

Ali,
I like the passion of your arguments, but I must say it's some what not attuned to reality.
You have to look at the Ogaden issue in its entirety and how it fits in to the larger regional power game.
For Ethiopia, it's not about natural resources or just wanting to occupy this harsh land and "enslave" it's people. It is matter of grave national security. Ethiopia can't have, now or in the future, a hostile nation that may be friendly to a future Somali government.
Geography hasn't been kind to us by sandwiching us between two warring countries. To make matters worse, we share ethnicity with the weaker side.
In regards to your "The choice is yours: either occupation and enslavement or sacrifice and freedom". You're being too simplistic. Well ,let me just say there are no foot soldiers here to exhort , so save those slogans for them.
The choice isn't always that clear. There is always a gray area. It doesn't have to be a zero sum game. We can attain certain freedoms and give up some outlandish demands we make.

Yusr, what misery is ONLF causing? are ONLF forces denying aid agencies and international organization access to the region? NO…are the ONLF the ones raping the women while blazing entire villages to the ground? NO..So pls expline what miser ONLF has caused…

And than you have the nervous to say ONLF should abondan the stuggle for justice and freedom the all human beings deserve, and accept Modern day slavery. Fortently that will never happen unlike the so called sheik who cowardly accepted Ethiopian colonization. The leadership of ONLF will not fall to such tactics, if Ethiopia wants to negotiate it must fallow the criteria set forth by the ONLF

During the struggle to end slavery in the united states there were blacks who supported the racist south, all because they thought they had no other choice. Therefore im not surprised at your comments “If we cant beat them join them? Is your moto I guess..

No one said the road for freedom would be easy, hundreds of other nations have achieved this dream and insha’allah we will to..without gieing up a damn thing

Oh and let me say UWSLF recently had their meeting in Goday underneath make shit huts. For crying out loud Ethiopia didn’t even provide them with a decent hotel.

What misery is ONLF causing? Well, let me think. It's partially responsible for the killings, maiming, destruction of property etc that goes on over there.
Pose the same question to a hungry soul in Ogadenia and his/her reply will be; Do I really care who is causing the misery. I just want it to stop.
Do you seriously think ONLF is in a position to dictate terms? Whatever happened to the phrase "negotiating from a position of strength".
Or I guess you could negotiate from a position of weakness as well! huh.
There is no shame in being pragmatic. Get what you can now and live on to fight another day.
Ethiopia of a decade from now may be markedly different from the one of today. Get involved and end this charade for the sake of our own people.

Yusr,
Well well Yusr. I see your pain of not being able to settle on one side of the fence. Please don't beat around the bush, simply state that you despaired and are ready to live with Ethiopia as UWSLF decided.

As for the geopolitics of the Horn and the "two warring countries of Ethiopia and Somalia", I am afraid it is an old notion and mentality that its due date has all but expired. The collapse of the Somali state and the vicious 20+ long years of civil war will have irrevocably changed that. And whenever Somalia revives itself, it will almost certainly stay away from the Ogaden cause, at least in the adventurist way like that of 1977, as the earlier emotions would have evaporated. Similarly and more importantly though because of the newly found self reliance and ability to wage the struggle on their own, Ogaden and ONLF will surely hold any future Somalia at arm's length and will not allow it to interfere into their affair. From now on, the game is between Ogaden and Ethiopia and Ethiopia's diplomatic and political (+the economic spin off) winning card against Somalia is over. Somalia can position itself as an onlooker and steer its resources to its own development.

With regards to Ethiopian National security, the solution is simple: let Ogaden go its own way and be a good friendly neighbour if Ethiopia agrees with your statment " For Ethiopia, it's not about natural resources or just wanting to occupy this harsh land and "enslave" it's people. It is matter of grave national security." Once independent, as a stakeholder Ogaden will be obliged to ensure not to endanger Ethiopian national security if nothing else out of its own interest.

You said "We can attain certain freedoms and give up some outlandish demands we make."
Yusr, since when fighting for our right like everybody else has become outlandish?. And since when choosing between holding our head high and kneeling down before our enemy has blurred and grey area became the preferred choice and the contemporary lexicon in our discussion. I honestly hope you didn't mean saying this. Should you did though, it must be the sign of the times, hopefully for few of us.

Our suffering didn't started yesterday, its more than century old. It is Ethiopia which is causing us the misery you mentioned. Before ONLF, there was WSLF and before that there was Nasurlah and before Nasuralh there was Sayid Mohamed etc.

The struggle will continue as long as Ethiopia is denying us the basic human necessity!..

Our people paid the highest price to get their God given rights and that needs lot of respect and sympathy.

The former Al-Itihad members who surounded to Ethiopia are bunch of traitors who were never a true patriots. They use to collect money from Somali people in the name of Jihad, but that money ended when Somali Islamist splinted into different groups. They couldn't stay Somali, because of Al-shabaab, and they lost the support of the Ogaden diaspora. All they care is Money and marying the youngest and the most beautfull girls then later divorcing them.

This is not your everage Sheikhs, this guys means business, but Ethiopia will jail them after the fake election.

This guys want to be enslaved by Ethiopia.. God forbid since when Islam allowed to be enslaved!

I feel so sorry how they tricked my hero the late Dr. Doolaal..


Regards
Geeljire


Regards

Yusr,
For God's sake stop pretending that you feel the pain of our people. And please don't fool yourself by trying to convince others believe that you somehow know better than us about the wish of our people. If as you say the people, at home and abroad, don't want the ONLF led struggle to continue they would just withdraw their support from them and collaborate and seek the protection of the TPLF regime. Period.
ONLF has no means to force them. Or is it your opinion that they are dumb enough in not know what is good for them.

No liberation front, or political pary for that matter, has ever existed without the unconditional support of its people and ONLF is no different. What we have here is a popular peoples' liberation front.

If anyone can convince Meles and co. here is a winning formula that has the potential to put ONLF out of business:
1. Release all the thousands in jails and tell the small creatures in Jigjiga and elsewhere not to jail anymore.
2. Tell his ragtag army to stop humiliating and raping innocent women and girls.
3. Tell his murderous army to stop indiscriminate killing and terrorizing ordinary civilians and burning down their villages.
4. He himself stop his immoral and inhumane policy of collective punishment and economic blockage.
5. Let people go about their business freely and move between their towns as they wish.
6. Tell his mafia-like army to stop intimidating and collecting whatever small fund he appropriated to Ogaden as protection money. He should tell them that he allowed them and looked the other way for far too long so that they could enrich themselves enough.
7. Allow people to pick and vote for whoever they want to be their leaders and fire them if they don't fullfil their wish.
8. Allow the diaspora communities to freely travel to and from Ogaden, safely invest in their hometowns and if they wish move back permanently without fear of persecution.
9. Begin implementing, without further delays, what is inherently any government's responsibilty toward its people: the basic infrastructure and economic development projects that Ogaden is entitled to as others in Ethiopia.
10. Tell his satellite outposts in Hargheisa, Garowe and others that their services are not needed anymore.

These are not outlandish demands but a meager basic rights and necessities of any citizen.
Now, if anyone out there is privileged enough to have the listening ear of Meles Zinawi, then it is a bad news for ONLF. Otherwise, the doubters are in for a lot of disappointment and they and the Ethiopia they are advocating for will instead be out of business.
And the people will willingly and voluntarily continue supporting ONLF (as their only hope) and the struggle will even be more broad based and more popular than it is today. Time to put nonsense aside and get real.

This is in response to your question "Could you then, please, convince Ethiopia to respond positively to this call?"

Fortunately yes, one can convince Ethiopia to respond positively to this call when we have the right elements in place.

1. Ogaden nation in a bargaining position.

This can be achieved by:

A) forging alliance with the other oppressed nations namely the Oromos, the Afars, the Sidamas, the Kaffas, the Shekachos, the Kambaatas, the Gedeos, the Hadiyas, the Anuak, the Nuer, the Berta, the Shinasha, the Gumuz and the Agaw

b) implementing clear mind, right assessment of the local / regional situation, accurate evaluation of the international conjuncture, anticipation of forthcoming developments, identification of existing (but hidden) enemies and adversaries, discovery of available (but not yet contacted) friends and supporters, and a systematic approach to a thoroughly elaborated action plan.

that is all today´s tyrannized Ogadenis and the ONLF need in order to raise Ogaden to the position of the next UN member state.

Thanks, again, Faisa. After perusing your last comment, I think, my views are not far from your last points “in order to raise Ogaden to the Position of the next UN member state” and speeding up the process to that goal. I believe that ONLF would take your last comment as a positive contribution to it's strategic /action plan, though, I am confident that they have already taken steps towards that.

Digesting your last comment also leads me to believe that you either belong to the Somali people in the Ogaden or associated to, as I am tempted to believe that you feel their agony. You do not have to belong to a people you have sympathy for, or have the same faith, color of the skin or geographical location. You do not have, also, to be a member of ONLF to support the cause of the Ogaden people and contribute to the speedy end of their agony. Here, as examples, I would like to take Che- Guevara, who was not a native of Cuba, and late Dr Edward Said of Harvard University (a renowned advocate for the Palestinian cause) who was not a member of PLO or any Palestinian party. If you belong to the Ogaden, it’s time you and thousands of other educated ones, would use the power of the pen rather than (we) pointing fingers to those in the struggle who are crying out for our help.

Abdifatah’s articles are just few of what is needed from those who can express, at list their feelings. THANK YOU VERY MUCH Abdifatah.

Finally, the ONLF steps in the peace negotiations.

Is it for a real peace negotiations and deal agreement or its because of jalousie of that UWSLF peace agreed with Ethiopia which a recently gathered all their members and holds their historic conference currently opened at Adadle district, of Gode Zone,which then,attracted the media attentions?
Well, if the peace in competences begin and that onlf's joining the peace processes is true now,then the dreams of hope, peace and prosperity of the Ogaden peoples is becoming true.

Hi, Intruder!

Where are you; Out of a cave? What is the year ? Have you lost your way? Need guidance to the junkie websites?

Am I missing something here!
People are talking about the next UN seat and so forth. Have you all drank the ONLF kool-aid? or is this just a way of fostering a feel good factor amongst yourselves, at a time when the chips are obviously down.
The horn of Africa is in too much turmoil as it is and the world doesn't want another secessionist group/s creating even more chaos and instability.

Mr Budul, of course I lost with millions of other Ogadenis who were blinded on infinitive wars of Ogaden battle fields.Not only a blinded person but also I'm deafened too on those battle fields.That's why I 'm so happy and been excited with (any kind )of peace agreement reached in Ogaden.
My friend,we should all support the peace for sake of people and don't talk too much about those words of liberation's and freedoms due to not having appetites my stomach right now and as I said my deafened ears could be only hearing the word peace, a peace for Ogaden people and a peace for whole region.Nothing,else my ears could listen.Tell those ONLF heroes,hold your horses and join the peace.
Thanks for their 18 years liberation of Ogaden country from other Ogadenis! what a jokes.Man,people were suffered and sandwiched in between those infinitive and never ending useless wars.we need only peace and nothing else and from both sides must be allowed my people to be settled and be lived in peaceful at least a peace for a one decade,if not prevailing forever peace.

Forever peace and peace for the Ogaden peoples.

Mr Budul, of course I lost with millions of other Ogadenis who were blinded on infinitive wars of Ogaden battle fields.Not only a blinded person but also I'm deafened too on those battle fields.That's why I 'm so happy and been excited with (any kind )of peace agreement reached in Ogaden.
My friend,we should all support the peace for sake of people and don't talk too much about those words of liberation's and freedoms due to not having appetites my stomach right now and as I said my deafened ears could be only hearing the word peace, a peace for Ogaden people and a peace for whole region.Nothing,else my ears could listen.Tell those ONLF heroes,hold your horses and join the peace.
Thanks for their 18 years liberation of Ogaden country from other Ogadenis! what a jokes.Man,people were suffered and sandwiched in between those infinitive and never ending useless wars.we need only peace and nothing else and from both sides must be allowed my people to be settled and be lived in peaceful at least a peace for a one decade,if not prevailing forever peace.

Forever peace and peace for the Ogaden peoples.

1. I agree with you that our people are suffering, but that is because of the hideous presence of Amhara and Tigray Monophysitic Abyssinian soldiers and of course as Mr. Ali said in the above comment “war is an ugly evil, painful and costly business”.

2. I do not accept the rest of your comments, for it shows that you know nearly nothing about the nature of the Ogaden people and the situation of the region.

Your cheep imitation shows that you are simple ignorant mercenary hired among the scarce renegades who prefer to polish the boots of the criminal Abyssinian gangsters, instead of fighting for their tyrannized and terrorized country’s liberation. Quislings have existed among all nations.

It is not by accident that Ephialtes stands in Ancient Greeks for nightmare; he was a traitor

YUSR

I understand that you and other ignorant Abyssinians have realized the fact that free Ogaden will trigger the definite collapse of the colonial pseudo-state ‘Ethiopia’, but don’t worry Ogaden, as an independent state, will be more useful for even the barbaric regime of the Abyssinians.

Vision

You need to either learn English or write something legible in any other language.

Dear Nimaco,

I have the feelings of your heart filled angers and that in accordance of your comment responds, guessing your frustrating pictures of that your body filled angers and bitterly eating your teethes and lib's,because of the Ogaden people's current situations.Young lady,I understand clearly your positions and I know that your are one of those recently recruited patriotic ONLF cadres.Also, I knew all your cadres have had the same training course of one programmed chip which carried out the same message of each chip in all cadres brains.Then, all ONLF members,of course their believing perceptions about none onlf member Ogadenis would automatically the same,because of that programmed chip in their brains they all reflecting the same tune and dirty languages.No matter,where and who you meet,gender or their ages difference,they all speak the same and uses the same tactical language threatening the people to label the same and similar word of "traitor" which is the one you uses against me in your last comments.

However,my fellow young patriotic Ogaden youth,that insulting a fellow Ogaden citizens isn't solving our long outstanding problems and its not bringing the solutions that either ONLF fighting for nor that otherwise we wished all.
The fact is that,correcting of your past mistakes and fixing of what went wrong isn't a shame and not making you a traitor.Taking some times a tough decision is character of the brave,and that Shiekh Ibrahim dheere peace approach is so far,a bravery characters.We will see but,we should all give the supports that he needs now.

Once again you are not able to produce any legible text .why can’t you write in any other language that you are more familiar with if your English is at this standard? for the reason that any simple analysis of syntax and grammar will but you in the category of the mental age of six years old.

If you don’t know what I am talking about, you can asses yourself by taking English test. I am willing to bet that you will score around ESOL E3.

Discussing in English will only make you look like a fool. My advice is that you write in Somali, in that case you will be able to construct a better argument.

Anyone who reads your responses will be forgiven if they assume that you are using (Google –Translate) and translating your responses from another language because of the horrible syntax and the grammar.

An empty patriotisms and rhetoric bravado words it doesn't helping the Ogaden case. Yes our people have been suffered and marginalized for long time but unless that onlf changes their old tactic struggles (their dictatorial attitudes and lies) they will never wining the war. Tell them to modernize the struggle and just be minimizing your too much lying.

Don't worry about the language and just be a supporter of the peace agreement and tell those onlf heroes to join the peace.It might be the best and the easiest short cut of the freedom.by the way I don't know any other language because of that I missed school and it wasn't available at all in the area I born and still its the same.No roads,schools,hospitals and no infurstructures BEcause of that lacking the peace and a nevr eneding wars.we need peace and lets allowed the people to be settled fist.

I am glad that hearing some modern onlf leaders were favoring the peace and that working very hard to join the peace process begun in Ogaden region.

Yusr & Vision,

You need not worry about "the empty bravado and the old tactics of ONLF" because no one would really take your opinion seriously. One can easily detect where you are coming from. Pharases like "our people have suffered enough and are in need of rest", or "ONLF's struggle has gone far too long without bearing fruit", or "Ethiopia with its 80 million population is just too big to be defeated" and the likes have become stale and have TPLF finger prints all over them.

You should know that the discussants are equally or may even be more informed than you are about Ogaden and ONLF, and will not entertain the recycled lies emanating from the TPLF propaganda machine. Masquerading as a caring compatriot while in fact trying to win few converts for Meles Zinawi is both raw and a futile excerise. It is just distastful and a tough sale as there aren't many buyers. Better go back to the drawing board, and find a smater way of salling your repackaged merchandize.

Muse,
These are legitimate concerns many people in the region have. Stop being so arrogant and dismissive about other people's ideas and point of views. It shows the hollowness of your whole so called struggle for independence.
We wish your organization would level with the people instead of feeding them false hopes.
At the end of the day, it's the people in the country side that are suffering the most, while the likes of you live comfortable lives in the west and stoke fires from here. Stop being key board warriors and have mercy on the poor souls back home.

Yusr...with our without the presence of teh ONLF teh ethiopian regime would countiue its campign of terror in the Ogaden. ONLF is fighting for the basic rights of the people.

You are asking the worng peopele for "mercy" got ask the tigray masters that have diacted and terrorized our people for the past 18 years for mercy..you ignorent fuck

Hello Hello Ogaden people can you guys shut up listen yes they are for sale the people who call them self uwslf and no body bleieve them they are big lie they used be terrorist group they call alitihad all intranstional communty united states of America European union they knew this group used be terrorist group so every body knows that mr ibrahim deera united states they put him in jail then they kick his ass to Africa and they know he is terrorist leader,someone like that it will never do any thing about ogadenia freedom because he is nothing I believe he got stress nervous ogadenia nation they will never diveded because him he is dabaqodi I want give you example how many daba qodi woyana they had befor him they can't do any thing about ogadenia freedom and our indepedent so he is one of them I Ogaden people listen you guys have only two chouse you will support onlf military and freedom of ogadenia or you support woyana regeme then chosen one that's all if you support woyana regeme just like mr ibrahim deera you are dabaqodi onlf they struggle agaist woyana regeme for 20years and body else can do that and onlf power full military they will continuo to do so and they have full support all ogadenia accept mr ibrahi
deera and his terrorist group and they just west time and also they are for sale and every body knows that this is short comment but this comment it will give you good lesson talk to your self and remember who you are and what you missing for almost hundred years, that's freedom and indepedent we know Africa dictators they use like this tactic diveded and control but remember. O.N.L.F they understand that and also smart Ogaden knew that but dume Ogaden like ibrahim deera and his group didn't know that, they just look for small money.

Yusr,
Please know what you are doing. You accuse others of arrogance and dismissiveness and yet you are doing the same. You are also insulting a genuine popular organization that has a broad based support among its people.

Try to restrain your arrogance and domineering attitude, and refrain from insulting others, particularly the Ogaden populace. ONLF does feed the people with false hopes. They are not dumb and empty containers where one would discharge their garbage. Try yourself to do that!.The people are intelligent enough to know where their interest lies and who is on their side. If they are not comfortable with the struggle they wouldn't be content taking all the casualties and live in the miserable life for as long as they have done.

As for me living comfortable life in the West and stoking fire and being keyboard warrior, What a nonsense. Are telling me and others that you are writing from "Jail Ogaden" in Jigjiga suffering and rotting with the innocent inmates in there?. Or perhaps, instead of the keyboard you are out in the bush and battlefield; and probably facing certain death? This is exactly what is wrong with you and your likes i.e incoherency, hypocrisy and shallowness.
As you can see from this small sample of comments posted here, you can rest assured that you will not win many converts with the wider society with your mission. Believe you me, yours is a lonely, long, and disappointing uphill endeavour.

I think you enjoyed the above(Bashir) comments and not worrying any more the comparators English level,as long as he/she is onlf supporter.I hope you would be fair in commenting advices and waiting to send Bashir to our ESL class level. ah ah ah ha.

By the way,did you know that general abdirahman khalif got called by Ibrahim dheer and traveled to join the peace? what you guys think ? Now,do I have to rethink about whole peace mission? I'm really in confuse but one think I know is that Ogaden people suffered and need first,a peace to settle their homeland and to develop there land first.But in their current situation's very disastrous one.

Muse and many other emotional nationalist Ogadenis are far away from the reality.I remember when I use to be activist like you or even more than you guys, because I been there at battle field and witnessed of what war is or what the real life of Ogaden nomads are.Well,it was all about emotion and flouts.It never solved the real problems that Ogaden peoples facing today but, rather it was complicated and made worst the Ogaden case.Also,while other ethnic Ethiopia states peaceful lived and benefiting the new federal systems of Ethiopia,the Somalis region became in chaos situations because of the ONLF useless fake liberation wars.Of course,the woyane taken the advantage and killed our peoples,looted and jailed a thousands of innocent Ogaden and still there in Jail "Ogaden".What a rough life in that jail. I visited a few months ago and the health conditions of the jail "Jail Ogaden" was misery.

Dear Muse and many other fellow Ogadenis, war isn't solutions for our case and ONLF,they are totally wrong from the early beginning to close their offices and go for war like they have had a promised victory of winning the wars and a granted independence liberation of Ogaden country,recognized member of UN countries.What a beautiful dream of another small country in the honer?what illusions life of Ogaden liberators and heroes like emotional brother Muse and Abdulalhi dheere!

Well,my dear fellow,the war continuation Ogaden region,isn't solutions at all and in fact the people of Somali Ogaden had been enough tried and never reached any results .So let us live with reality guys and stop the crocodile tears that fuels the war in Ogaden but never bringing the solutions for longtime suffering people in Ogaden Somali region.

Support the peace in Ogaden

Vision,
I am sure that you have no idea of the correct meaning of the "crocodile tears" expression. You must have heard from others without trying to understand its really means.
On another note, please do little effort and acquire the basic education level that would make you a worthwhile participant before you dash in similar forums. In the meantime, you can help yourself and others if from now on you post your comments in Somali so that others don't have to labour in order to make sense of what you intended in your comment. That, of course, is if you are not impersonating as a Somali individual in which you still have the right to comment but others have to go extra mile to understand you.

How do you know that other participants have not been in the battlefield?. And what do you mean by Ogaden nomads-don't you know that nomads have a decet occupation? Why am I smelling something fishy here?.

As to whether or not war is a solution, I am afraid you already made your opinion irrelevant because almost all the countries in the world became the countries they are through armed struggle and are maintaining their independence by brute force. In other words, war is a necessary evil as the world is, unfortunately, a rough neighbourhood.

Furthermore just to straighten the record, the following is a brief account of ONLF's last 19 years in Ogaden:

1. In 1992-1993 ONLF accepted the peaceful coexistence with Ethiopia as stipulated by its constitution, and participated in the election.
2. And without proper preparation and in the absence of necessary infrastructure for campagning, ONLF won the majority of seats and to be exact 86% of the total vote. Yet instead of winner takes all mentality, as a gesture of goodwill and for the common good, they appointed to the highest positions some of their opponents who lost the election.
3. Next, ONLF members and some others in Jigjiga parliament presented a request to Addis Ababa, as is required by EPRDF/TPLF drafted constitution, that on behalf of the populace they wanted a referendum be held in the Ogaden in order to decide whether or not they want to be part of Ethiopia.
4. Meles and his regime's response was to try to eliminate the then Chairman of ONLF in Wardher where 48 of ONLF fighters and ordinary people of Wardher lost their lives while defending their leader. That was how and when the hostility between ONLF and the regime in Addis Ababa has begun.

In short, ONLF didn't start the war, can not be blamed for being a warmonger organization and in fact has followed Meles' own constitution to the letter until he may have concluded that it was better to destroy it before they gain strength and abruptly decided to eliminate ONLF altogether as he did with Al-Itihad. That of course didn't happen and the rest is history we are all aware of.

Now, both ONLF leadership and Meles' TPLF and co. know that today's ONLF is very different from that of 1994 and the stark reality is that ONLF may not have achieved its aim and have some way to go before realizing it but Meles' TPLF is equally aware of the fact that ONLF has long passed the threshold of being destroyed for good and that TPLF will not be able to defeat them militarily. Since Meles and TPLF have won against Mingistu Haile Mariam and have run Ethiopia from 1991on- not as a conventional adminstration- but as a front like ONLF, they are better equiped to understand that fact .

With regard to the crowd who are disguising their intention of wanting ONLF to kneel down and surrender to TPLF but are cunningly presenting themselves as peace advocates and caring about and hearing the people's pain, they can try long and hard but the warring parts-ONLF and TPLF-won't take them seriously because they know they have no much to contribute to the situation in either way. Meles won't change his ways and ONLF won't surrender.

Alright folks- I was just playing a devil's advocate this past week. Man I hate amxaaro. You don't get more ONLFy than I'm. Victory to the oppressed masses ! Victory to Ogaden and ONLF !!

I 'm very confused what some people writting on this website.I guess that we are all from Ogaden Land. If it so I am sure that every one of us knows well what is going on in ogadenia, and who USWSLF is.This is the former ALitixaad which is a terrorist organisation. And terrorist always changes their names and their goal because they are after money and they join who ever they think will give them money. As every one of you knows the money it operates and it's fighters come from Mogadisho,after each fighter fights 6months in Ogadenia, when he is back he will look for a beautyfull lady and a house then the agent in Mogadishu for Al itixaad wil pay the expense, and that was what his aim of fighting was,and he has that promise in hand before he goes to Ogadenia to fight..And the fighter will go back to mogadisho,and then new people will be sent to Ogadenia with same promise.
This shows you that, these people were not a patriotic and they are not patriotic now.But they were after their own stomach and they are still after their own stomach , as many of you knows MOgadisho is dealing its own problem, and any money it gets from foreigners, it uses to solve its own problems.so there is no way they can get what they use to get from foreign countries through mogadish.the only choice they have is to surrender and they did with demand of money,for them that is a good deal, as we know those twenty one soldiers of USWSLF whom give in were not from Ogadenia, they were CALOOSHOOD U SHAQEYSTAYAAL , hired from Mogadisho,we know that thier chairman is from Ogaden Dhanaan but his idealogy is founded what I have mentioned above. he is also Calooshii u shaqayste,as each of us aware this gay get a promise of cash from Ina Illey and some individuals from Jigjiga. The Ethiopian government has no informationa about what is going on,a part what they got from Ina Iley and Daud Ahmaar and also the Ethiopian knows who these people are, and where they come from.Please and please stop telling lie, the OGADEN People fed up lies, so stop it now. ONLF are from ogadenia and they don't get any kind of benefit from any where, they are fighting for their people and their land. ONLF is using very good strategy which it wants to free our mother land from wayane and DABAQODHI. and we are all standing to support its goal and no body can defeat us. Al itixad or USWSLF or what ever they call themselves, Before they were calooshood u shaqeystayaal and Macaan Jecel, and now they got an other name which is DABAQOODHi and that is what they are paid for. FULL STOP.

OGADEN people should be wise enough to understand the double minded politicians of itahaad. The itahaad and their allies{alshabaab,al_ictisaam, TPLF} SHARE one ground that is their hate toward the mighty onlf... it is time for OGADENIANS to wake up and really know what ALSHABAAB,ITAHAAD,TPLF are. ONLF under M.O.Osman is couching the elimination of TPLF out of the face of east_africa

Dear Martyr Muse,

The word of crocodile tears, as you said it’s new to me however, the reason that I used the expression, I thought it’s an appropriate for the use for those hypocrite peoples like those ONLF supporters and war inflammatory peoples but who never been in the real war and military battlefields but a hypocrite war monger peoples and who lived in peaceful places. That’s why I sued the expression of the word “crocodile tears” which means to “an insincere display of emotions” such a hypocrite people like you and many others who never witnessed the war or the life Ogaden peoples but, who is crying fake tears and grief’s for the Somali Ogden’s aloud. Yes, I agree with you that the people of Ogaden have been oppressed and marginalized under all regimes of Ethiopian. Also, I do agree with you that your English command is better than many commentators on the board but that it doesn't makes you the winner of the center of the argument. Instead it simply proves to the readers that your domineer attitudes which of course a typical behaviors of ONLF cadres. Well, to come back to the point of the issue, despite of you’re making longer explanation here and excusing for ONLF failure mistakes of the past and present is unacceptable to the majority of the Ogaden citizens.
Oh! My dear fellow, in the 90’s the ONLF elements hijacked the general public opinion of the Ogaden from the very beginning of the arrival of TPLF regime. The Woyane desperately needed the support of all Ethiopians oppressed in past ruling regimes and ONLF was those org invited to take the lion shares of the power due to the given considerations of long struggle and sacrifices made the Ogaden people, the TPLF never ignored or rejected the ONLF. Rather, the EPRDF regime had been hosted for the Somalis states alone the historic ceremonial conference in Addis Ababa and invited a more than 40 international embassy’s, as well the AU representatives in Addis capital to be there and be witnessed the historic Ogaden Autonomous conference given the Somalis(ONLF) in the first time. The video of that conference, hopefully it would be still available and it could be watched and listen whoever interested. Well, the unlucky Ogaden people again missed that golden opportunity of once a God given time and it was because of the ONLF, the reasons we missed that Antonymous and freedoms witnessed by the international community’s and represented by all ambassadors of the world the Ogaden given Autonomous and how dare it vanished within few months because of their ignorance of those onlf elite cadres. Again, the same group who hijacked the Ogaden politics and the will of the peoples were still, the once who leading the Ogaden politics. Of course there are some changes made either the structure of org some individuals but the main policy that going by ONLF was the same policy of 90’s which based in the 60’s idea of Somali greater patriotisms and liberations of Somaliweyin. While the Somalia Republic, the mother of the Idea of “Somali greater” died itself in the 90’s after General Siyad Bare regime collapsed and failed too, a few months before the Dergs lost power to TPLF and Mengustu flew the country.
Well, the TPLF needed their help, however due to several factors affecting the ONLF politicians (like the culture and the politic of the country) it might be given onlf to some extents for little excuses for their lacking experience in Ethiopia at times of the 90’s. Of course unlike other ethnic Ethiopians there are always cultural and political barriers between the Somali Ethiopians and the highlander Ethiopians so for that reasons let it given onlf the benefit of draughts at those days. However, these factors it didn't giving them ONLF a green light for their past 18 years of lacking a political visions of the Horn of Africa. Having said that, my friend, I’m not braising the arrogant attitudes of the woyane against Ogaden civilians and their well known criminal activities in the Somali region hopefully No rational Ogaden person was/is happy and that it would've nothing to do with the critics that forwarded to ONLF. In another words, the ONLF still follow the same failure policy of the 90’s and in general the onlf didn’t either understood like the 90’s of what the people of Ogaden current demanding from Ethiopia or they purposely ignoring the desire of both the Ogaden people and EPRDF once again and following the simple interested.


They should respect the democracy of the public opinions otherwise there is no any difference for the people of Ogaden between two African dictators, the leaders of the past and present rebels.

War nimanyohow horta ma qalbigaad la'dihiin mise wax kalaa idin qarribay? miyaydaan lasocon qorshuhu siduu u dhacayo.

war ninkan Males zinaawi la yidhaahdo horta waa marka koowaade waa cadawga Afrika, kadibna waa cadawga Soomaalida, Kadibna waa cadawga Ogadenia oo halkaas ayuu abtirkiisu maraa.

Taladiisuna waxay ka go'daa niman friimayson layidhaahdo oo iyaguna cadawga Afrikaanka iyo cadawga soomaalidaba ah. waa nimanka uu tawxiidkoodu yahay in soomaali laga tirtiro geeska afrika, nimankanina ciyaar maaha oo waxay haatan gacanta ku dhigeen yurub inteeda badan.

ONLF na laf cad bay toobin ku haysaa, oo nimankaas oo zinaawi uu qawsaar iyo wakiilba Africa uga noqday, ayay marwalba u andacoodaan. war ma nin qawsaarkiisu ku garaacayso oo waxaad aragteen marwalba isaga loo dacwoodo? miyaanay ogayn hadii qawsaarku ogyahay in lagaa celinayo inaanu marka horaba ku maageen. hadiise ninkii qawsaarkan lahaa waa (yurub iyo ameerikee) ay kaa qabanwaayeen miyaanay waa hore la gudboonayn inay ONLF ay raadsto xulufo kale oo Shiine iyo Ruush iyo Venezuella iyo waxay doonaba ha ahaadaane soo ma ahayn inay tusaan friimayzanka inayna ogalaanaynin Gardarro garab og inay ku tomato ummadeeda.
Sababta loola heshiinayo UWSLF-na wax lala yaabo maaha waxaa soobaxay niman dhalinyaro ah oo waalan oo wadaado ah oo soomaaliaya qabsan raba. Waxaa kuwan loola heshiinayaa in lala socdo dhaqdhaqaaqooda siaanay aafada Soomaaliya ka jirta usoo gaadhin Etoobiya .

arrintu siday doontaba ha ahaatee UWSLF waxay noqotay doqontii isdhigtay shilkii lagu qalai lahaa. ama waxaad maqli doontaa hebel baa huteelkiisa ku dhintay oo hoosehooseey baa looga takhalusayaa, ama hadii kale waxaa jirkooda la gashan doonaa qalab yar oo electronic ah iyadoo la adeegsanayo cilmiga nanotechnology markaasaa halkaa lagala socon doonaa dhaqdhaqaaqooda

salaama

Mr vision it is ridiculous a mature man to change his nationality due to fear of onlf and its supporters, no surprise because onlf beats you dailly in battle field, that is the way it taught you to behave, whenever you hear the name of ONLF run or change your name or your nationality, the way you did in your statment. we know who you are, hide yourselfe or not .
You used the word hypocrite if you know the meaning of the word,
it is kofaar,and you are the only kofaar we have ever seen in ogadenia, second you said that we don,t know what war is,and you said non of us has ever been in battle feild . How do you know mr wayane,you lie stop lying, we are all fighters, if we are in abroad to day, tomorrow we are in Ogadenya and we teach you a new lesson dailly,you can't use the word domineer to ONLF if you know what you are saying.
the word domineer you can use wayane,
they are domineer absolutely. and also you can't use the word cadres to onlf and its supporters, the meaning of the word is Adeege, onlf pay no body we all valunteer.no body forced us to be onlF, but you force people to be a soldier.you use the word grief to us wayane people griefs dailly,
as you know we always defeat you in every war, then you grief.you spoke the policy of onlf talk about the fullish policy of meles,ONLF is great and it is getting bigger and bigger dailly politicaly and militarly.You used the word elite if you know the meaning, how can't use that word some body who valunteer his time his life and his money for his own land and people.

The meaning of the word is Dabaqada sare,it was better to use that word to wayne and meles.ONLf and its supporters are equal.There is one thing else I want to remind you,we have millions educated Ogadenees whom are very rich in politics,therefore stop advicing us, meles needs your dirty advice.

My friend, you are either a so naive person or you don't know nothing about the onlf org.Otherwise, you wouldn't be talking like this to me. On the other hand, you really don't know who you are talking to.
By the way, please refrain for yourself and stop insulting people for no having a good reason.Because of they were questioning onlf or that simply disagree with you(onlf) I don't thing you have the rights open free your mouth and say whatever comes.Well,if I said it a constructive critics about the ONLF and their strategical policy and guidelines, I don't believe it you have the rights to call me a kafir or that to label me a traitor dabadhilif and a sale out to Melese regime.Why some one deserves for all those comments? it because of I promoted for peace solution for the Ogaden people and because of that I fed up the empty war drummers of onlf diaspora supporters,who non of them never faced the real war in Ogaden fields but eating cake and burgers in western countries.You guys don't cares the Ogaden women and skeleton babies dying for lack foods and if someone brought of any suggestions to onlf morns,OH you know their answers are the same always " traitor' and dabaqodhi etc. This is real hijak of our peoples by simple a few narrow minded ONLF leaders.They should be open and discuss with majority of Ogaden intellectuals.they should change the war strategic and know that they are not wining by the gun force.Try different strategic,like the mandale,matama ghandhi or like the Kingin peaceful while safing and feeding our skeleton dying Ogadenis and our girls that maid servants and humiliated in all over of the horn cities .Don't onlf leaders care about all this or they only care about their fee collections?who the hell they are and who chose them for the people responsibilities in the first place? Oh dude,you said go and work for Melese.What about working for Issia afawork? who is the better? please and please I don't want to go in further details just for sake of damage control,don't be bully and push in deapth.Don't tell me that you know me due> I swear you don't know me who I am go and ask the top leader of onlf who I am,they would tell you.mmm!!!

On the other hand,didn't I told you that your English commanding is better and the best of all in this cyber warriors? Why getting a busy to some word and trying to explain in more details? How long you've been in Kenya or in Addis dude? Am I feeling a some culture is missing with you? what's your point of keep repeating your English fantasy? I really didn't get it that one!

Wel, as a people of Ogaden, we're proud of your English capability writings like we are also a proud to Shekh Ibrahim's oratory Arabic language.However,let me tell you again that knowing a better English or any other language it doesn't making you a winner of the topic.

By the way coming back to the original of the topic,it looks like now that your aren't allowing to be debated (in clean discussions) how peaceful solutions we that could bring in the Ogaden region.Although I wished to participate the discussions of my home land but I don't see it the possibility of further smooth discussions.So,as I you said it to me go to Melese,also the ONLF a people like me,they don't like their headaches,because of we questioning them too much,i believe you guys don't like us but we'll be waiting you until you're exhausting in the wrong directions that you're heading for the last 18 years .

I believe,the other way is the short cut of the freedom we're seeking for.Peace is the essential for the human lives.

Mr Wayane/vision I support the rights of my people and my land,I 'm native ogaden, I also born same place ibrahim born, Dhanaan,I don't have any kind of special interest like all supporters, and ONLF do, except to free our motherland fom wayane and we all sighned to die for the sake of our land and our people.
I know what reality is,leave about ONLF and its supporters,the majority of our people not those few money lovers or the somalian you hired from somalia. Sincerly speaking they all want indepedence, you said refrain your self,why don't refrain yourself,you mean because you are wayane so you have freedom of speech,
dump that dirty idea immediatly.
my mouth is free because yours also free,refrain yours then I will do mine,mr wayanae I repeated many times and I will repeat it now one more time, so please open your ears.
I said many times all ONLF leaders and its members they don't earn money or have special interest, the sodliers they fight with milk of their camel,and meat of their sheeps and the supporters and the leaders strugle with their own money and time,we all have same interest which is freedom. and you said they care about their fees, that is why I am saying you are wayane, Wayane always use one tool which is divide and rule, the time of that idea is over, wayane you hate ONLF because they refuse money or any kind of trick.
like the one Ibrahim dhere and his twenty one which has hired from somalia fallen.

ONLF doesn't deserve any kind of accusation,if one speaks sincerly and honestly,every one knows that ONLF and its supporters has sacrificed their lives, their time, and their money for the sake of their land and their people,but we also know that you were paid to write what you are writting,and you all paid every step you take,wayane and Dabaqodhi or macanjecel,but nobody pays ONLF and its supporters,so they deserve praise not accusations,the common ogaden person and all of us want only freedom because we are not an Ethiopian. I am not speaking about those mira chewers whom you paid money and these Macanjecel the fomer AL Itixad. which you bought from Idoorland and Dhabayaca land.
We have been under occupation 90 year,s, those 90yrs Ogaden people were fighting their freedom, and we will continue for ever unless we get freedom. ONLF is and will be for ever for the sake of their land and their people.so now it is the End of Wayanane,we fed up seeing wayane dailly, so enough is enough,no more for WAYANE IN OGADEN. There is no peace if we are under ethiopia.so better to stop those isolated propanganda of Wayane Injirleey,the ONLF supporters whom are in abraod they don't have appetite for eatingt humbeger,or cake,their mothers and fathers are dying for hunger and their children, so how can they eat something comfortly.Wayane, our peole they don't trust any body works with wayane or after money lika Al Itixad, but they trust ONLF beouse they know them well and they don't hear the propgandad of those get money or Wayane.If

what wayane saying is not a false why they don't allow Human right watch and other non govermental organisation to come to ogaden to wittness what wayane doing in Ogadenia,you dn't allow them to come becouse you don't want true to come out. We also know those who working with Meles and wayane they are either from Idoorland or Dhabayaca land non of them are from native Ogaden. you spoke about beating drum,we are beating the right drum, why don't you see you people beating a drum which you are harming human being or robing their ownland and rights,so you want the world not hear the way you refused them to see the inhuman action you are doing in Ogadenia.inorder to eat the flash of inocent ogaden,and to settle our land wayane from

MAGALE. don't ever dream that the world knows that you hiring somalian from Idoorland and Dhabayacaland to speak or work with you behave of OGADEN people,OGADEN PEOPLE refused to work with you and they insist you to leave their land. the world awares that you raping ogaden young ladies dailly,killing inocent OGADEN,REFUSING food to come in OGADEN inorder ogaden people to die starvation.and then to settle Wayane from Magale our fertile ogadenland.the more wayane do such action and cotinue occupaying our land,the strugle will continue and every day thousands will join the srtugle.That is the reallity if you can read and hear something.

Vision,

You have discredited yourself and continue making yourself a fool. There is a time to stop and it is now or else keep embarassing yourself. You are becoming a laughing stock.

Hey ONLF morn supporters,we will see how your reaction or what to say a people like vision,the Ogaden visionary intelctuals when ONLf reach peace agreements with Ethiopia and that is in very soon.Just wait and see you after the election end.Stay tune for that news.KKKKKKKKKKKKKK.

I want to talk to this guy called him sel f[ peace], I can't call you peace, either I will call umatured man. Ma,anaa waalan mise Cadan baa lag heesayaa?you are either deaf or blind, or you took cash. People, you always talk about peace, there is a question for you and those think like you, mr unmature,are we under occupation? or are we an ethiopian?if you are wise enough how can you negotiate someone invaded and subjugated your own land, negotiation can occure only if Melese and his ragtag militias go back to Mekele.

If you are some one who can hear/see or understand something only peace can come when we are not under occupation, keep in your mind this, if meles,wayane,Injerley,and its traitors like Al itixad are in ogadenia there will never be peace everand ever.Because we are not an ehtiopian,we are an

ogadenian,and we want indepedent only,that is full stop,don't ever talk and write on this website ,something kids can ever think to write on public website, shame on you Wayane,Dabaqodhi,Macan jecel/al Itixaad. by Cobra/Dhanaan.

Mr Sarhaye,

You said "You are becoming a laughing stock" Tell me how and why I'm becoming a laughable stock? what is wrong if I supported the peace initiated by Sheikh Ibrahim? Don't you know that the Ogaden religious groups(former alitixad) had been suffered in everywhere and and became the most victimized in Somali cities.Do you know since they got defeated in Ogaden battel fields and wiped out from the whole region as well from Luuq Ganane of Somalia by Ethiopian forces,again they became victims of their co-group Alitixad's members of Somalia like those Shiekh Aways in Mogadishu.They have got singled out in Hargeys,Bossaso and in everywhere of Somalia.They lived in humiliation,under threats and in Harsh conditions in Ras Kambooni Jangles and now for your info they became under threat of the Alshabab fanatic group in Mogadishu.They felt the worst threats from Alshabab and can't be lived in Somalia they become their(alshabab) supporters.On the other Hand,as Ibrahim dheere stated,they tried to co-operate with onlf or even joined but either way,the ONLF rejected.So if they,let say surrendered or asked a peace offer from Ethiopia,then I don't understand why that ONLF making a big fuss?
I never heard yet that sheikh Ibrahim was making any envy statement against onlf accept that he was calling onlf to join the peace he started but since the day one that heard the uwslf's announced peace exertion efforts with Ethiopia,the onlf waged a propaganda war against the UWSLF and their leaders.
In fact, a such propaganda scheme war and a discrediting exertion efforts waged by onlf against the Shiekh Ibrahim dheere's group became a ridiculous and too many Somali Ogadenis including some onlf supporters to amaze their actions against uwslf,if this group of former defeated (Alaitihad ) opted to surrender and live in peace in their homeland,Ogaden.Instead of living in humiliation threats and fears in all over Somalia especially in bigger cities of Mogadishu,Bosaso and Hargeyssa.

Well, people ask why onlf didn't refrained the case and be tolerant the peace for the sake of our suffered shiyukhis in all over the world.ONLF,don't they care about those native Ogaden Oluma? Ask you guys for how long they could live in exiles for those old men in the group,like Shikh Abdullaahi ahmed Omar, a 90 years old man who was kissed the soil of the Ogaden region when he arrived peacefully at international airports of Jigjiga and Godey and people were watched and witnessed their happiness faces through the internet of their gathered photo galleries presented by the most websites of the region.Also we seen them how people welcomed home and supported their peace agreements.My friend,if onlf stayed out and played in law profiles about the media of their peace issue and not interfered, I believe the uwslf 's support would be much lesser.They made their case a very popular one due to many people became upset to onlf.

It's a typical and the same scenario of ONLF mishandled her internal conflicts(those engineer Macaw) when it was at beginning which that onlf would've been handle in different simple and easy ways.Unfortunately,they opted the most dictatorial way to resolve their local simple disputed instead,they intensify the case and escalated the conflict into a bigger one until it caused us to lose a hero life and a two group that cary the same name of ONLF enough for confusions especially for outsider world.
Finally,my friend I'm not against Ogaden struggle and I'm not a loyal( dabadlif,macaan jacel) for the woyane as you wished and labeling me.In stead I loved my people of Somali Ogadenis/Somali galbeed.
Also,I personally have the torture scars of the Abyssinian soldiers so there is no way that I would be happy with oppressor of any Abyssinian regime.Woyane or the past ones.I know that we're in different and insoluble kind of ethnics and I'm not against the resistance struggle of Ogaden people.But,I would like that ONLF to be change directions and of course continue the struggle.Let them be flexible and be tolerance to the people and stop brushing dirty language to whoever that differed idea with them and whoever that speaks for the same people of Ogaden in different avenues like those(Ogaden peace group and silent etc...) and many young Ogadenis in these days started knocking all doors to address the case of Ogaden (e,g US state departments etc.) explaining the Ogaden cases.Nonetheless,sorry I forget that you told me,ONLF( you) they don't like hearing others advices and listen only inside their(onlf) circle and not welcome outsiders.That is wrong my friend,be open and let people say it and expresses their opinion free.

Mr Vision, this time, I think you need a glass of water,because you are talking like somebody who he is both deaf and blind,you spoke Al Itixaad being defeated by ragtag militias of Melese, you lie to allah subhanuhu watacaalaa.I was in Oadenia that time, Al itixaad didn't defeat by wayane milias, if you know what war and politics is,they were defeated by the Ogaden society,as every one of us knows,there was a religious misundersatnding between the former OGADEN sheikhs and these young abroad trained guys. who was pretending that time as a religious people, in order to reach their goal which was wrong foreign idealogy.
Which dIdn't had any kind of interest to our people,after the community understood who these people are and what they represent for,people stood together, people realized that these people and wayane are almost having same iam, which was to subjugate our motherland with foreign idealogy.as every one of you knows most of this people were from somalia, a part of small people came fom Dhanan and Gode, their leader was from Gedo somalia that time.
Don't blind your self, nobody can fight in ogadenia, if community does't wants he/she to do so. Even right now the community was the one whom forced them to leave from ogadenia,the way Ogaden people did in 90s,now every body knows there is al shabaab in somilia, alshabab refused these people/ former alitixad to stay in somali or get any kind of assistant from foreigners.If the sociesty does't wants you,you can't fight like ONLF because ONLF is not one person or two like ALItixaad,all soceity in ogadenia are ONLF if he/she talks or silent.
come to your point which was peace,my friend keep in mind one thing, there is no peace, if wayane is in ogadenia,I repeated many times, we are not an Ethiopian, so how can we negotiate with wayane and its mad dictator,you repeated many times ONLF don't care thier skeleton kids dying for hunger and every kind of punishment. If tagrag militias and its mad regime think,punishin,killing, raping,and toturing is solution,they are realy mad,the more you kill,the more you refuse the food to come to ogadenia.

And the more you rape our beautyfull ladies our youth will continue joinig ONLF in thousands every day,and the strugle will be bigger and bigger.whoever you harm his relative will join ONLF immediatly after he/she realizes what has happen to his relative.

That is why ONLF is fighing for, they want to free their people, the only way the condition of this people will improve is freedom, you spoke about Mandela,and Gandi those peopled were colonized by UK. As every one of us knows, UK knows what human right is.Mad dictator and his tagrag militias don't know human rights,a dectatot whom represents only 3000,OOO MILLIONS of ethiopian papulation,who got power by millitary force.Melese and his ragtag milias knows only a gun they don't know a pen.
We are not an ethiopian, peace will come only when meles and his ragtag militias leave ogadenia aloneThat is the conclusion of the story.by Cobra/Dhanaan

Good luck for your Ogaden liberation struggle and keep the war voyage in the Ogaden Savannah and deserts area,My friend, if that ONLF doesn't see any other available opportunity left to seek the rights and self determinations of the Ogaden people,then a war options will be a must and of course, it will be continuing until forced Ethiopia to allow the self determinations of the Somali Ogadenis to decide their futures whether to be separated from Ethiopia or stay with having their full autonomous.However,the war has to be the last resort options.And,I have the reasons to suggest ONLF first to seek in peaceful way for the demands of the Ogaden peoples which is a self determinations up to the secession according to the Ethiopia constitution written and explained in article #39.My friend,I know that our people were marginalized and oppressed for years under Abyssinian military occupations,but one thing we should known first,that we aren't the only ethnic oppressed and suffering under those Abyssinian rullers including the current woyane regime.However,the Somalis were the only resistors whom always fights against each regime until it collapsed of that regime and usually were others the one who taken advantage of our bitter struggle fought against each regime.Good example this woyane regime.If the Somalis didn't fought against the Dergs they wouldn't dream the levels they are today.Also,mind you the Eritrean struggle and the woyane,the Somalis helped and given their struggles s continuous supports until that the mengustu regime collapsed and woyane took over the power,which never been appreciated for the Somalis and instead of paying back those favors given during their struggle,they paid back to all Somalis in the horn a hell of human atrocity crimes and making all Somali regions in chaos and destruction's of the Somalia became the pay back of woyane to the Somalis.

Now,I would have fearing the same scenario that it would be happening to ONLF again.Because,they are the only armed ethnic rebels fighting against woyane regime,while others only have the talks and never strikes the bluets but always ready for the power changes of Ethiopia.
So,are we a honey maker bee for Ethiopia regime changing while benefiting for nothing?

Thanks, for the good lucky you offered, the long historic fight of ogaden people,I should like to remind you one thing you maybe missing.I beleive that one doesn't has a right to call the ogaden fertile land ,Savannah,Desert.
That is why I insist that you are not a native ogaden,The common human being in all over the world knows what the facts is,which is that ogaden land is most reserved fertile land, it has more than 6 oil wells,and all other kinds of recoureces, it was protected by our forfathers more than anyone else in the world, it is missing only invesments and that will come after the indepedence, not before the indepedence.
The long standing struggle of our ogaden heroes will never take away by wayane,and small group trained by former somali dictator, like Ina ILLEY, and DAUD AHMAR whom think only their stomachs.
If we are not making blind our selves,we all know that ONLF decided this tough decision after it uses every available tool,which was one of them. to get its freedom by peacefull meaning,which is sitting on a table with those whom aggressively invaded and sujugated their land, despite the fact which is that this regime came to colonize Ogadenia not to leave peace fully,
The regime refused that offer, because it doesn,t serve for its own interest, so if you want the regime and his ragtag militias to continue and stay in ogadenia with their false propagand. that will never ever happen, and let me remind you, ONLF still wellcomes any peacefull conference to take place everywhere in the world except in Ethiopia.ONLF knows the fact of the ragtag militias and its mad dictator,the regime doesn't want to leave ogadenia peacefully, there is a proverb somali says [someone who wants to take your own wife,you can't convince him, take my doughter,].
This regime doesn't want peace ,it is doing all these false propaganda to cheat the eyes and ears of internional communities and any one likes peace where ever he/she is,especialy those whom doesn't know and understand the exact history of this regime, and its position,if the regime wants peace, let him come on the table,not in ethiopia but any other country in the world because ONLF can't trust this regime, this regime eats the flash of innocent civilian in Ogadenia and in Oromia.
Every health minded ogadenees who is in all over the world is dedicated to inform the world exactly what this regime and his ragtag militia is,You spoke about the article #39, if there is any article working in ethiopia, let human right watch and all other international communities come in ogadenia and in Oromia to wittness whether there is any democracy or any kind of govermental articles work in ogadenia and in oromia or there is any kind of freedom of speech and developments.
You testified that Ogaden society has exprienced marginalization , oppression and any kind of hardship under the occupaion of this ragtag militias and its mad dictator for years, are you suggesting despite what ever those ogaden intellectuals saying about this regime,that this regime wants peace? if it is so let the regime come on the table in each countries it prefers, not in ethiopia.
Keep in mind that ONLF works like a governments, ONLF and its supporters are in Addes abbaba,in jigjiga,working with this inhuman regime secretly for the sake of ONLF and its people,they are the one who cause any kind of changes comes to this regime,and they are well prepared and well trained to take over.
,ONLF are very talented ,so it will never miss any kind of chance,if you can hear or read well, you said ONLF will miss its chance, if this government collapses,which is a false dream, let me remind you mr vision, don't miss your chance, join ONLF or its supporters as soon as possible,no matter if you are Wayane, ONLF is demogratic and it will accommodate you peacefully with a good position,so apply now, the chance is open for you, no deadline, if you don't commit any crime againist ogaden people or Oromo people,by Cobra /Dhanaan

vision, Dig a hole and jump in it

Pour kerosine on your body and burn yourself.

Cobra,
Thank you for dealing with Mr. Vision appropriately.

Vision,
If indeed you are not a programmed machine as I suspected you are, I would advise you to hang out in other sites like EthiopianReporter.com, AbbayMedia.com, nazret.com and the likes where you are likely to find sympathetic participants.
Here you have been repeatedly shouted down because your views are not shared by others. You must be feeling very lonely.

I believe that, so far we're only two persons but you are playing/using with multiple names just to make me fell a lonely person.On the other hand,what you think about a close to thousand prisoners released from the Jails in all bigger cities in Ogaden region including the worst jail called the " jail Ogaden" yesterday.Isn't it looks like a good move so far? Imagine that, if ONLF joins the peace it would be gained a better deals and the later move steps will be a complete freedom for the Ogaden peoples.Always one step leads you to the next bigger one.Also it's a less human causalities approach.Why? then you shouldn't advocate a peace table dialogs to resolve the Ogaden crisis instead of advocating to liberate Ogaden by the gun force? My friend,what I'm trying to say is that our people have been tried enough to liberate their Somali Ogaden land by the force of the bluet from the Abyssinian army occupations and for the last 50 years we fought intermittently by the gun approaches to liberate Ogaden region and you know too that all the Somalis liberation's movements were failed including the 1977/78 of the Ogaden war.And we know the reasons failed at each time of those gun struggle efforts waged to liberate our land so it doesn't need to explain for you.However,my point is why we don't try a new approach like the current one that Shiekh Ibrahim already started? or why the hell onlf don't leave him alone and give him a chance and wait the guy.In case of his peaceful views of that a table dialog solution approaches might producing any fruitful solutions for the long Ogaden crisis of the horn.If they don't want to try or that disagreed with the attachment conditions of either sides (onlf claims of third party ),then why onlf considering this peace dialog started a test for Ethiopia and wait in case that Ethiopia was in sincere and was telling them truth for the peace agreement dialogs they disagreed with their sides attached preconditions.Can't you see that Ibrahim dheere,for the onlf,if they smart enough he could be seen(used) as their litmus test paper to check Ethiopia sincerity of the peace solutions?

Finally.I will accept your orders to leave it this website and move to somewhere else for the sake of your quest and for my vomit controls to damage the image of my loved Ogaden politics and honestly,I can't afford it in case that if I got upset by morn fellow Ogadenis of this website,I don't want to lose my control and spill the beans due to my stomach filled angers,so you right its better for all to leave it this website.

However,one thing you should know that I not a programmed machine of neither to woyane nor to the kilils. I'm a decent person of Ogaden citizen.My problem is that I became an obsessive to the love of my homeland Ogaden region and the painful of my suffering people of Ogaden under Ethiopia military occupations for a close to generation eroding my life.The Ogaden case,it became a chronic painful to my life and I wished that one day to see the Ogaden people lived in peace and free in there daily lives.
Well,I believe its the time for the Ogaden young generations to seek the solutions.
Oh! my dear Ogaden fellow, I love you all and that Nothing else is wrong with me, except that thinking too much (all day and night) about the chronic political problem case of Ogaden region and the painful suffering skeleton children and women in Ogaden regions.
Again I love you all and keep the good hard working for your peoples and keep always their unity of the whole Somalis in the Ogaden region. Viva the Ogaden Somali people.

To Abdifath,the author of the above,article,I really due enjoyed reading many of your articles including this one except few lines in this article,the rest is okay,however for the sake of the unity never ever be rushed within the Somalis,including the most hateful persons among the SomaliGalbeed.Keep in mind always, they're not the real you need it to target in your future articles.Mind always,they are not your permanent enemy but they are a selfish and servants of your really enemy,which you need them to target and deal with them in your challenges.Avoid,in your future articles to be sounding a bias and a too much a propagandist but, be realistic and focus on dealing with real enemy of your people and your Ogadenia.

Viva the people of Ogaden and long live Ogadenia.
Bye bye Omar your advices accepted,take it easy man and see you there too.

I am very sorry mr vision/ coward , to use the term , multiple names to me,thanks to god I am not a coward whom changes his name,his nationality,I swear god, leave about that you are an ogaden native,you are not a somali,
Feeling lonely, is the fact for you,you will continue feeling lonely unless you ga back to mekele with your dirty, lices.
I have never changed my name ,Cobra is my realy name,I was given that name by the public, because I am not either disguise myself or fear a coward invaded my land, a diguised name of [JABARTI] I born in dhanaan/koore/, I was in dhanaan few months ago and I will be in jigjiga very soon.

You spoke about realising prisoners, those you realised and those still in the prisons are inocent boys and girls looking after their livestock in the bush when you caught them.
Wayane and its ragtag militias is nearly to arrest trees! ,because the reigme is coward,it thinks that every body is ONLF,shame on you,continiue arrersting ,whoever you release will join ONLF, there is a proverb says,RAG CIIL CADAAB BUU KA DOORTAY.
Other hand we know that al native ogaden are either in prisons, or ONLF or in exile, those working with you are either Idoor from idoorland somalia or dhabayaca from dhabayaca land somalia,and that is why you are facing dailly, bitter war because you aggresions make all ogaden either in prison or ONLF, or exile,giving our Qabalee to somali dhabayaca or iidoor if you think will save you or hiring people from somali, calooshood ushaqatstayaal like AL ITIXAAD.

Do you know the deference betweeen givein and negotiation on the table, if you know,ONLF is ready for peacefull negotiation in any other country not in ethiopia,but never dream give in,like what Ibrahim DHere did, which is in human,to givein your self somebody eating the meat of your own people,Ibrahim is not a patriotic,he was after his stomach and he is still after his stomach,don't ever expect, ONLF to do what Ibrahim did, I can't call him, sheihk because sheikhs don't do corruptions,[musuq maasuq.]

still you are doing a lot of error because you are outsider,that war of 1977 was completly wrong,that war was mislead by somali dictators and its error is still in ogadenia,somali Idoor and somali Dhabayaca were the ones did that error, and they are still doing wild activities against ogaden native, they are working with wayane and none of them is native ogaden,they are from somalia but they were given our ogaden land by wayane illegaly,every ogaden knows that and they are fighting beside wayane against ogaden people helping the atrocities committed by wayane to ogaden people dailly,[WAA LA DOO GIYE YAAN LA DACAROONIN]
You repeated Abasiniya,those people were Ahmara, Ahmara is more civilized than wayane Injirley,Amhara invaded our land too,but was more better than nomadic wayane.so leave them alone,they gone.and they will never be back to power.

My friend ragtag militias and its mad dictator don't know what peace and negotiation are,this regime knows gun not pen,ONLF knows this regime but not Ibrahim dhere.ONLF will wait months, after that he will be either killed or in prison like all other ogaden else,there is a proverb somali says,NIN WALALAKII LOO XIIRAYOOW,SOO QOYSO, Ibrahim will face same punishments ogaden people facing dailly,
Please keep in mind no peace if Melese and his ragtag militias insist to stay in Ogadenia.if the regime wants peace let him come on the table in any other country it prefers,and let the regime eccept aid organisation to come to ogadenia to help those dying with hunger,and let the regime eccept

human rights watch and all non governmental organisation to come to ogadenia,
to wittness what is going ,and to wittness the rape of the young ogaden ladies,killing ogaden inocent,refusing food to come to ogadenia by the ragtag militias, in order ogaden people to die hunger and starvation, the regime wants to bring his people from mekele to setlle the fertile ogaden land,which is false dream and beleive,,no peace and negotiation, if wayane is in ogadenia,the regime came to power by gun and he will go out by gun only, beleive me.by Cobra/dhanaan

Hey Cobra/or whatever else names you was used to,now I think the case is over and since that Mr vision left the discussion board,isn't that end of the story.By the way who is the real coward here if you know military rules the REAL coward solider is the one who kills the surrendered POW soldiers.You are now to me the same of that brave killer of his POW soldiers.No further discussions and I can't continue fighting since I trusted your advice and accepted the seize fire of fighting in this website.Well,at least if I wouldn't surrendered my gun with you I might trying that to fight back but now,You have my gun and I'm your pow real coward?stop any conversation of the topic and don't lose the victory of the debate that you won easily against me.Be aware real coward! that you're breaking the POW international rules.Your strikes is cold blood killings kind and its a typical attitude of your trainers.So I don't blaming you,if you following them and start killings of innocent pow civilians who gave up the fight and who laid down their weapons to you.

The End!

I don't really care whether you're from dhanaan or from Gunagado,but as long as you're from Ogadenia I really loved and cared equally as whole citizens of Ogaden.Why you are keep telling me that you're from Dhanaan? which isn't the truth and of course isn't a true? Well,young man stop that attitudes and learn to live on with reality.Also,be known that everyone is very clever in these days.

Bye bye dude!
Long live Ogaden peoples.

In the frist place those bowed soldiers, you talked about, they wouldn't have bowed, someone took their own land, killed their own people,and still killing and raping, and not have any kind of regrete,they are not better those killed,you will see on your bare eyes tommorow they will be killed by the ragtag militas too,let us watch together,the consequence of Ibrahim dheere.

We can't predict no once future here and that Sh/ Ibrahim dheere's future is like any other Ogaden politician who wished to live in Ogaden region.One thing,that I do agree is Ogaden isn't a save place to live but again its our homeland,so he rather live in Ogaden stead of living in exile and in humiliation,fears and threat living in Mogadishu and Hargeysa or Bosaso and you know its better and a less risk to live in Jijiga rather living in Bosaaso or Hargeysa.

Mr vision,can you answer for me these questions?
[1] Why this regime doesn't want to come to the table peacefully in any other country?
You know that he is not trustable in Ethiopia.

[2] Why the regime denied human rights watch to come to Ogadenia and aid Organisation?

[3] Is this regime a new born one or the one we familiar to?
These questions left unanswered.
My friend come back to the fact.

It is ok not to predict.
I agree with you to wait the future to take place,but don't forget to keep on eye their consequences!!!
I guess that we agreed with all other points, except those.by cobra.

Before I answer some of your question I recommend you to read the "Cartel" article, if you didn't read it before "The 2010 Election and the Formidable Cartel in the Somali Region" its in Wardheernews website.Just to understand who in control the Somali region and who run the show which is in fact the army commanders and TPLF advisors actually who runs the real show.

Then one should ask himself and think that how much is the ONLF pressures put on these tigray military gangs robing the region? Then why they need to sit with onlf on international tables? while they never got/felt any military(onlf)pressure from the onlf.And now,the worst thing is that using our idled and unemployed boys hired militia (the Somali local police) against the ONLF,thus, I don't see any military pressures that forcing theTigray regime to negotiate onlf on international levels.My friend,their (Meles regime) worst pressure came from the international communities for the case of humanitarian disastrous in Ogaden region.But again,don't forget this is Africa and seriously, no one cares when it comes the reality .Don't you know that while western countries are talking too loudly against Ethiopia govern is the time they are giving a huge amounts of dollars?The westerns countries cares more their own interest and nothing else rather than trying to resolve your(Ogaden vs Ethiopia) conflicts and you are lucky some times if they don't be complicated and make more in difficulty chaos situations like Somalia. So,if they talk seriously against any African government, they worry to lose their own interest so they don't take the chances to risk their own interest for you.

Well,so don't be waited from those western and developed countries an enough supports that helps the Ogaden liberation's from Ethiopia. Especially the UK ,the government that purposely handover our Somali region to Habasha empire and colonized the whole continent and mixed up the African borders simply to create future dispute and conflicts among Africans.We should think more and come up some slutions,my friend.

,Mr vision now I got your point,you aware the reality, and you are wise enough, despite all the fact we mentioned and suffering of the Ogaden people, never suggest ONLF to negotiate with the wild regime.

[Doqon idaa kuguma daayee waxuu kugu daayaa la tusaa].
Criminals don't know human dignities and respect except Gun.

This regime refuses any sort of solution. then ONLF will destroy this Jokore regime and its militias.
ONLF is well trained and capable to accomplish this job.
ONLF doesn't deserve any kind of critics.

You testifyed that the regime doesn't want any kind of peace fulll meaning.
We almost done because we all know this regime.
It got the power by a gun and it will go by gun.

A trash regime knows gun and ONLF has A gun.
We almost done because we all knows this regime.

Did you ever thought or worry a declaration of fatwa forbidding a war against Ardulxabasha during Al-itixaad's meeting at acaddadle of Godey area.I wonder how he missed that Fatwa declaring against onlf? That tells us the poor guys were simply run away for their lives to live home instead of humiliating in Mogadishu etc.
Whatever else they were getting is bonus for them.If you are a close to those onlf tops,tell them to back off from these guys,they're making stars and isn't good for them.If you don't play with fire,it will cools down by itself.

Did you ever thought or worry a declaration of fatwa forbidding a war against Ardulxabasha during Al-itixaad's meeting at acaddadle of Godey area.I wonder how he missed that Fatwa declaring against onlf? That tells us the poor guys were simply run away for their lives to live home instead of humiliating in Mogadishu etc.
Whatever else they were getting is bonus for them.If you are a close to those onlf tops,tell them to back off from these guys,they're making stars and isn't good for them.If you don't play with fire,it will cools down by itself.

You cheated me at the begining disguising yourself, but now, I know your position.
Even if you are not an ogaden,you are a smart guy, you know what the fact is,despite all what you pass through at the start.
It is amazing someone knows all these facts, to argue what you were arguing at the start.
I am still wondering why you were doing such thing? Or are you two deferent guys?
Now we done, because we are on a same boat, by the way, what is your really name? truely speaking,and where do you live?

I didn't cheated you and i never disguised my opinion through our discussions but it was only misunderstanding of both side and of course having the paranoia of Macaanjail.Like the Somali proverb of "dhurwaa iyo dhalaan dhexdooda" .Other hand,until now how come you don't have the full info about me? I thought you're a biger spy for the ONLf? you guys are too slow.By the way you know where do I live and of cuourse you could know through your computer so you don't need it that one to write for you but I could guessed what is very Important for you,me and every Somali ethnic which become the only identity that Somalis would trusted for or mistrusted for and that's also the one destroyed Somalia and halts or weakening our liberation's.Did watched that Abdullahi qajii's video and listen how voluntarily he vomiting to discredit his friends after he quit the struggle for his own personal interest ? look no one was forced to discredit his old friend and his own struggled but felt he is not the majority clan..on the other hand that Dolaal, I believe he also died for his own arrogance beliefs of belonging a larger tribe other wise he wouldn't trust to walk alone in the jangles of the region without having enough troops for his own protections.By the way,based on my guess I know who you are!

Who do you support either wayne/macan jecel/Dabaqoodhi?
Or ONLF. ONLF is the majority reperesents the people of Ogadenia.
Those three are united with one aim which is to robe, kill, rape, arrest,rufusing food to come in ogadenia.

Which do you support? Do you support those three criminals,or you support ogaden people and ONLF.
Dolaal was a great freedom fighter ,he is in the pradise,] inshaa lah],he has never represent tribe,,he represented all ONLF and ogaden people before he deid [alaha u naxariistee].
Be one side.

You described that the traitors[al itixaad] declared that the will never be a fight against WAYANE,they lied and there is nothing in their hands.
Don't ever fear human being, fear [ Allah sub ahnuh watacaalaa].

So if someone asked you your name and where you live,tell him/her excatly.
Don't ever try to full human being like you.
,You said, you can know whom I am through the the internet!

I didn't say that Dr dolaal isn't martyr may be I knew him more than you and he was a great hero who died for his country like many other ogaden martyrs.But what shouldn't gone alone and without having enough troops.I don't know how he trusted with few men though the enemy.I could be wrong with my last statement about him.Nevertheless,there is no doubt that he was a defected man before he got killed by woyane militia.
On the other hand,you asked me where I belong in your list.Right now I don't belong to any group and I'm a decent person- shacab.However,I'm a supporter of Ogaden people's struggle and I will continue my support insha'alha at any cost like I did it for the past many years.My friend,the Ogaden case (al-qadiya) is in my vain and I don't know a single moment that has been free from my mind and I never slept without thinking too much about Ogaden people that suffering under the military occupations and living under oppressions of all human atrocity crimes of the current woyane soldiers.My friend,as you trying to label me I am not a macaan jacal but again,I don't like to discourage your strong moral and beliefs of liberating Ogaden by the gun force.
Well,according to the current awkward situation of the entire horn region and that facing our people many difficulties in very where,I may have a different view Temporarily and see things in different perspective angles and that is the whole ambiguity you are feeling from me side but I would like to tell you I am not sale out person for any cost in the expense of Ogaden struggle and in the bloods of our brave martyrs dying every day for the cos of Ogaden people freedoms.Never ever it would happen from me.
We might deferring a bit tactile struggle views but I will assure you there's nothing else my dear young patriotic Ogaden.Keep your hard struggle against our all enemies and focus all sides not only the woyane,we have a worst enemy in everywhere.

I hope that one day we discuss live in Ogaden...I will leave you now.
Have nice day.

At the last not the least, I concluded that we are almost on a same position,I am a supporter of fomer sheikhs too.
after I figured out that we are on a same boat by many ways,
It is my privilige to invite you to join ONLF and its supporters wth the great Ogaden society.

ONLF is the only the power exist and capable to free our land,in order to reach our goals, we mentioned earlier.
Now let us put aside all those small deferences,and unite with one stratigy[ ONLF].
ONLF and its supporters are on the right side of the freedom way and success with excellen stratigy,
I advice you strongly not to hesitate to join this clean struggle of ONLF and its suppporter.

you are an important guy, so join the only sraight road of the freedom .time is running and success is very near.
you did well with those former discussions,

At the last not the least, I concluded that we are almost on a same position,I am a supporter of fomer sheikhs too.
after I figured out that we are on a same boat by many ways,
It is my privilige to invite you to join ONLF and its supporters wth the great Ogaden society.

ONLF is the only the power exist and capable to free our land,in order to reach our goals, we mentioned earlier.
Now let us put aside all those small deferences,and unite with one stratigy[ ONLF].
ONLF and its supporters are on the right side of the freedom way and success with excellen stratigy,
I advice you strongly not to hesitate to join this clean struggle of ONLF and its suppporter.

you are an important guy, so join the only sraight road of the freedom .time is running and success is very near.
you did well with those former discussions,

Aha! you are sounding now with full confidence.May be you did some work to disclose my identity or you just want to hook me and join onlf struggle without turning all the stones and still there are some stones remained unturned yet.By the way, so far we are getting enough close to understand each other and I believe you are a very tolerant, patient and a wise person who that could be trusted to represent the Ogaden case in to international debates.You're a real good fighter with brilliant monuovering tactis in earlier debates.
I believed you man and I am proud of you and many other Ogaden brilliant educated youth around the world...Keep their unity always then victory will prevail by itself.

Leave supporting macan jecel, wayane,dabaqodhi.
Mr vision be a great man like ONLF.
bye,bye,bye

I thought that we done the most hard part of our differences but now it seems to me that you're are going back to square one and I don't know the reasons.Despite that I answered all your questions asked in honest and in sincerity and of course that almost my answers were agreeing with the fundamental principle that ONLF struggle standing for,then how come that you still calling me a wayane,dabaqadh etc?
Didn't that I was declared and testified for you I'm not macaan jacal and I'm a supporter of the Ogaden struggle against woyane regime?My friend,what else you need it from me? I really don't understand your repeated intimidation?
A such intimidation and labeling an insulting names,I really thought that we passed in our earlier rough discussions,which in fact I believed that I played in low profiles and ignored all the crusting badmoth intimidation's just for the sake of keeping the Ogaden unity and avoiding any disuniting my people of Ogaden.which is of course my principles always and if I felt that I can't disagree with onlf members,it was always my principles to stay quit and to hibernate myself until another suitable time comes,
Nonetheless,Good luck for the struggle and I wish you ONLF for the best victorious.

Please,disregard the above comment due to my misreading your comment.The message is nothing wrong,Its a good advice,although I never had been known of any macaan jacels in the past and in the present times.
But,wei know too many wrongdoing onlf elements but their mistake are always tolerates and ignored for the main purpose and objectives goals of the struggle of Ogaden people.

Have nice day...

I have no problem with you any more, you are briliant ogaden guy with uncountable dignity and comprehensive mind,continue being well and talented.
Try your best to you unite ogaden people.
There was misunderstanding at the begining, I know who you are and your position now.
There is a friend of mine here in USA whom was living out side of his motherland more than 40yrs, his is a great ONLF supporter and organizer. he dreams always, that he will be in ogadenia without Wayane/Dabaqodhi/Macan jecel one day.
He knows more than any body else how sweat is leaving in ogadenia without wayane and Dabqoodhi.
Enjoy your time and continue fighting against those unpatriotic elements and WAYANE,
Thanks, Mr vision bye,by Cobra/Dhanaan

Hey,the Cobra of the Doxada dhanaan or the Dhurkii danwa'a or the Burqayer area,I would like to leave/give you as present gift of this amazing video of three amazing wonderful Ogaden boys that peaceful protesting against the genocide of the Ogaden civilians in back home,Ogaden region.
They are really doing of their struggle parts by bravely doing demonstration in Boston,their alone three students,USA.My friend there is a reason I pick up and I chosen for this video because,these three young boys are samples for millions of brilliant young Ogaden generations.I know,it's not a first time for you but I can't leave you just like that and I wished to leave with something so I chose for you this video. www.saveogaden.org. Please be watch again,I really enjoyed and listening again and again these wonderful young boys.I said at each time ,Thank you million times..

Hey,One should think that the none stoppable spread of Ogaden struggle in all over the world and I do feel proud of them,when I see a youth Ogaden generation like these three boys in Boston.He listen one them saying "no more silent" They are the onlf products and believe it or not ,onlf prepared their replaceable of wonderful mass of Ogaden youth future generation.
That will be their (onlf) wonderful legacy leaving for their Ogaden Somali region.

Your hide your identity, sory to name wayane at the begining,
You are hero.
I have received your present.
Thanks, mr vision,bye.

Mr vision discard all those gibberish of Ibrahim Dheere,as everyone knows well yesterday when he was against the regime,Gila iyo Oo manba waydaa dayeen every year, I don't see any sort of change in Ogadenia politicaly and enviromentaly, Ogadenia is under occupation even more worse than when him and his militias were against the regime. apart of his desperate and realization of his former mistakes, either Ibrahim or none of his militias is partiotic.
Every body in ogadenia and abroad hate them.
You spoke about that many sheeps were slaughtered, my friend don't blind yourself,it is the regime whom slaughtering all those sheeps and camels because this regime wants Ibrahim and his militias to fight against ONLF.but not the Ogaden peaple who slaughtered.
Ogaden people don't like any one associate with this wild regime
there is a big difference between Ibrahimand and Melese, you will see tomorrow with your bare eyes,Ibrahim and his militias want to be bosses in Ogadenia and get alot of money,this is differ what Melese wants, which is Melese fed up fighting with ONLF, so he wants Ibrahim to fight.
Let us watch and leave these guys alone this time,let us waIt the consequence.

I was listening him yesterday, when he was talking,He spoke some how good,he was asked if you remember, whether he supports the peace initiative in ogadenia or not, or how does he see?
he declared that he supports,he also added that the people has a right to choose where they heading to, which is not something so bad,we all aware the Omar geele's position,he is more better than many of horn african's leaders this term.

As you know well this guy is a president,other hand he has close relationship with ethiopia financialy and politicaly.
and as you mentioned there is a strong difference between eritrea and djibout, but that one has nothing to do with his speach, when he was asked about onlf he said simply ONLF refused the peace and nobody can persuade ONLF, as you know this guy is president whom has border with ethiopia and finicial inetrest, so he could't use other words except those diplomatic ones, he didn' speak deeply baut onlf and its stuggle.

Now,I'm that well aware and now the intentions of Ibrahim dheere is clear for all,but I'm in doubt about president Omar gale's intention of peace hosting.I think that he wants to add more none Ogaden clan members in the uswlf group due to his historic habitual addictions of Somali tribal power balance makes in previous Somali peace summit he hosted in Djabuti.He likes to see all tribal representative to be in there.Thus,I have that feeling from Omar gale's peace hosting call,that he doesn't like to see the Ogadenis alone playing the Logo of Somali galbeed..Because,if you listen carefully during his interview,he wasn't sounding a mediator and a middle man of two sides.And instead of being a neutral about the case,at least until both sides arriving on the dialog table,but in fact,he sounded that a person who already made up is mind or citizen and a supporter of the regime so I really wonder what he will mediate.other hand,the USWLF they already reached their peace agreement with Ethiopia and they are in their country with regime so i don't understand the reason they will go to Djibouti.Can't they make their proposal drafts and summit to the federals? what differences it makes for them that visiting to Omar gale or staying with Daud and Abdi iley? the simple differences is that Omar gale wants to add other none Ogaden S/Galbeed shiukhs like Skiekh Omar farouq and shiekh Gadhyare since this logo of S/galbeed played by Mr dheere,they might want to question him in jabuti..Otherwise,Djabuti will be their face saving way out for good from the country.Who knows my friend.we will see!

About Ismail O. Ghele's Interview:

I watched and listened it very carefully and I do not think he sounded like someone who was involved in anyway in the said 'negotiation'. When it was put to him, he replied, " I heard". His answer to the second question about the "sencond round of meeting in Djibouti", was also a general one that they are a peaceful country and would wellcome any peaceful negotiation in their country. We therefore should not jump into the conclusion you seem to be heading.

Irrelevant to the topic of discussion though it might be, I also found him as some one who is against recongtion of "SomaliLand" as an independent state. Unreservedly, he referred to the international law that the Somali people( South + North) that approved the Unity only can approve the break-up.

Sorry for my interjection of your long conversation.

Upto now omar Geele's dignity among ogaden people and other somali is not so bad,
considering your staments, you said Omar Geele may bring none ogaden tribes on that false dream table of negotiation between Ibahim dhere and Ina Iley/Daud ahmar.
As an ogadenia supporter /ONLF supporter, I don't bleive any kind of tribe in ogadenia.I am strongly opposite any sort of division in ogadenia,as you mentioned adding sh omar faruuq/sh Gadhyare and other group from other ethnics of ogadenia to that false negotiation table by Omar geele.it doesn't make difference.
As you my know Omar faruuq and all others you mentioned are ogadenis from ogadenia,and they have any kind of right any other person from Ogadenia deserves,
Those shiekhs or any other individuals or groups you stated in your statments are ogadenis no body can deny that, they can either join ONLF or any [ Dabaqodhi] individuals associated with Melese and his feeble government.
it is their own rights,but keep in mind one thing it does't make any difference joining Ibrahim isolated false. celebration.
Omar geele is only the legitimate somali ethnic origin President and for that sense I support him and I bleive that he will corect any error he does or did by daillly basis to any somali ethnic person.
for my sense and udrstanding,Omar geele is a president having close relationship with this regime,and I also bleive that Omar geele is very aware what this regime doing to his people, I don't support those ideas accuse/condom/blame every body,
Let us wait what comes next.
Mr vision let me bring your attention to this,by all other meaning you are a great man,but it seems to me that you are still bleive[ the illitrate idea of the colony] which is divide and rule,no tribalism in ogadenia,all people in Ogadenia are ogaden people with one enemy,leave alone our small difference,we all brothers and sisters.

I should like to see one day all somali ethnic individuals free from this killer disease [tribe] please help me to treat every somali ethnic person from this killer disease.

I brought the issue of Omar Gale into our long discussions and I asked to my friend Cobra an opinion view and how he sees about Djibouti's HE, Mr Gale's sincerity of peace hosting between Ethiopia govern and USWLF the Somali Ogaden's.I was wondering that Mr Gale,what motivated him now to be involving(peace broker) the long time dragging conflict and warring region of Somali Ogadenis.And why not that Mr gale didn't intervened the conflict in earlier and seek peace solutions?
Nonetheless,where is the pride responsibility role that the Somalis expected from president Omar Gale? Of course unlike other previous Somali presidents and leaders in the region who fought for all Somalis in hardship,he didn't put it efforts for Somalia or for the Somali Galbeed,instead,some were saying and that blaming Djibouti takes advantage and make profits from Somalia dragged civil wars and her disarrayed and suffering people.Also,a few contracts that taken by Djibouti govern in the name of Somali peace making projects through UN projects were known very well among Somalis.Therefore,I thought that Mr Omar Gales is now trying to expand his business to Somali Ogaden sides,since that he never has been tried in the worst time of the Ogaden region conflicts.
Mr/Ms Budul,there's none to say sorry about your last comment and in facts I agree with the most explanation except that disagreeing with few lines about Mr Gale's political positions in the horn,especially the roles that he played the entire Somalis live in the horn of Africa.

ONLF,claims there is no tribalism and its forbidden among the troops.That's a success and its good news for all Somali Galbeed peoples.The questions,then what holds them back to join the struggle and took their parts(the none ogaden) other tribes who lived too and belong equally the region lands like Ogaden tribe? Why the majority fighters drown from Ogaden tribes and why others enjoying with woyane or accepted with woyane oppressions and humiliations? I really can't find a clear answers for such questions.However,Its a certain that we both have same answers for those questions which then always the opposite side believers will disagree to our answers and the vs verse is true.So the best idea that onlf lived on so far was doing their best fairness and treating them same the people lives in Ogaden region.This is a good strategic so far using onlf to carry on their struggles against woyane regime and to minimize their conflicting with Somalis in the region including their neighboring Somali tribes of Somalia.

Other hands, you said please help me to cure every Somali from tribal decease.My fried that is very dificalt task and I think its a waste of your(onlf)time and its one of the wrong strategic policy mandates that onlf trying to conduct to liberate Ogaden Somalis.The idea isn't bad but it didn't worked for the past trails.As you mentioned before and it's obvious to all of us,that Somalia lost their 30years old government because of tribalism and now they are at edge of almost to loose everything's including their sovereign country of Somalia and soon you will be hearing that a world people calling her a one time independent country of Somali Republic.Because of her all citizens were infected an incurable decease of tribalism.It looks like that the Somalis naturally born with this tribal problem.As we remembered,Siyad bare tried during in his early years but, Siyad bare's campaigned missions that waged to eradicate and eliminate tribalism among the Somalis became unsuccessful and a failure missions.So are you telling me that Onlf will be succeeding with this difficulty mission? I really doubtful that onlf will carrying out the mission and that producing of any fruitful success.ONLF,shouldn't waste more times in the fights of tribalism among the Somalis BUT they should respect and treat equally and fairness for all tribes lived in Ogaden region.People knew that we are one ethnic (Somali) and that we're all related in one way or the other.So onlf shouldn't worry too much about the issue of tribalism.It's there already and it can't be curing by simple lectures through the media "Radio Xoriyo"or holding for many orientations.No you can't eliminate tribalism among the public by your(onlf) simple testified and claims through the media's.

HI.
vision not only ONLF wants tribe to be eliminated from ogadenia, every health and clean individual from Ogadenia believes and wants that,we all hope that ogadenia will be the first place eliminate tribe and start unity[ among somali speaking community], we all expect that the rest of somli origin people live out side of ogadenia to imitate that.
every one from ogadenia like you and me felt the pain and hard ships of tribalism.
Ogadenia is colonized by foreigners using tribe[ divide and rule],the problem an ogaden person faces by dailly basis is isolated one, none of somali living out side ogadenia has ever faced such problem since1960.
so we can't compare ogadenia and other somali nations.
other hand not only onlf wasting its golden time to eliminate tribe but all health and intellectual ogaden individuals,this is completly opposite to the regime stratigy.
let me remind you, any one from ogadenia can join onlf without condition any time,onlf doesn't contain only ogaden tribe,it can be the majority of onlf,even if you go back and start counting those working with wayane, ogaden tribe will the majority too.
because the people from ethinic ogaden tribe is the majority tribe in ogadenia.
So let us understand, and speak reality please, I am sure that you know what the fact is.
The regime uses[ tribe] as its best tool to paralize our long struggle.
thanks to god we are all aware that and majority of our people are educated now,so there is no one who can cheat us.
Osmail omar geele is a great somali hero and he knows what the fact is.
Don't mind if he accepts hosting that false negotiation,I know/believe that he will never commit something bad to his people, as you know this man is a president of somali origin people and ogadenia is somali origin community and also keep in your mind that this man is a great politician no body can cheat him or persuade him to do what some else wants which may against to his own people.
Keep in your mind that omar is a president of free state so he has aright to wellcome any kind of peace in political manner as he did many times.

Hi Cobra,
Despite the facts of that tribalism will be existing forever with Somali culture and in realities its a difficulty task whoever that tries to eliminate from the Somali tribes,then again I really do agree with your(onlf) principle believes.Although,I know that the majority of the rest Somalis think or believed that onlf chosen the name of Ogaden,because of the majority members were from Ogaden tribe.I tried many times to explain the Somalis the reasons that onlf took the name of Ogaden but I found them their ears were deafened to listen the factor reasons that caused them ONLF to choose the name.And,I hate when the same friends of mine asked me again and again the same question when next time we meet for coffee.
Any way,I do admire your(onlf) courageous believes of that eliminating tribalism among the Somalis communities.However,its not an easy task to implement among the Somali communities whom these days their scale measurement of everything's bases on tribes.However to carry on the missions indeed,it needs a bravery solid decisions.Good luck Mr cobra for your struggle journeys.
Thanks again for giving me the opportunity of this long ride discussions.

Thank you and I hope you for the best.
Long live the struggle of Ogaden.

Mr Dwell.
Please stop playing! write something we can understand either english or somali,I am sure most of the readers of this website can't understand what you mean.

[ Sea dweller watches relica watches tudor watches], and so on.may be it is dutch language who knows?,please write something understandable. I mean you wrote this stuff people to read, right
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We are waitting from you to translate for us those two comments you wrote and don't write such things any more if you don't know english no matter write in somali thaks yours cobra/dhanaan.

well said it is very good for us